What is "Hyper-Fundamentalism"?

Yep i got you sarcasm Mr Moderators,But be prepared,At the judgment seat of Christ,I expect as baptists you believe in one,your sarcasm and one sided statments might be called into question.
When i joined the BB i was assured that open debate would allow and each side of each issue to be vigorously argued without statements like those above.
I expected such things on other topics but on the fundamental issue.
Forgive me for my ignorance,i thought that God's people were to go out and win the lost then bring them back to God's people's place of worship and then introduced to God's perfect standard.I never thought the church was made up of lost people which had to be pampered in order win them.

 

Good post "er" however.........
On this board their "cHURCH" is made up of bAPTISTS who stress their "LIBERTY" IICor.3:17 without considteration of ICor.8:9.

 

Some of you are beyond hope, I fear. You pounce upon and beat the drum of Fundamentalism and Baptist standards that are either made-up next to scripture or ultimately go against scriptural standard. The views espoused on this site, by some of you, are the very reason why I and so many people have left the Baptist church. You are sounding more and more like Catholics, which try to use their silly traditions and man-made traditions to bring them closer to God when, in fact, all they are are a mask to hide their insecurities when they are before God. You all continue to put down those who don't worship, dress, and act just like you, and those of us who are the target of your lame attempts at righteousness will continue to go to church every week either broken and spilled out, seeking the Lord in all his power AND intimacy, or we will go to church every week thankful for the Lord's power of sin and frustration in our lives that week. All Jesus required of us is a heart after His, not one that uses outward signs as a justification for our faith, but a heart that, in every way, seeks after Him in truth, in power, and in Love. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life...No man comes unto the Father except through me." He didn't say through tradition, dress code, or anything, else, He said through Him. It's apparent over and over again in the scripture that the silly things we humans place emphasis on are detestable to Christ. For those of you who criticize for the rock music and the dressing down, you attempt to place an emphasis on clothing as some sort of righteousness before God. But, what did Jesus say about righteousness? I think I remember him saying that our was like "filty wrags". 'Nuff said.

 

Kind of a funny story that this post reminded me of. The CEO of my company had an appointment with President Bush, along with several other execs from tech companies, and went to the Ranch in Texas in his Jeans and sport coat, just like he always does. He was invited to some other event later, and his administrator received a phone call from a protocol officer in the White House making sure he was aware that the event was "Black Tie" Even the cowboy president (or his staff) expects snappy dressing once in a while!

 

Ok, but why do we equate God with the President, or a job interviewer or whatever??

Kathy
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YES!! </font>[/QUOTE]are you implying george bush???

 

"A Biblical Church"

 

YES!! </font>[/QUOTE]are you implying george bush??? </font>[/QUOTE]No the Cowboys!!!

 

It all seems a bit like oneupsmanship if you ask me. (Well, I know no one asked but.........) When someone doesn't have a good doctrinal argument against his opponent, he hangs a label on him.

What do you think?

 

I think you have a good point paidagogos. We must watch ourselves when we call others names and like Lacy said, turn the sword upon ourselves first.

This was an interesting thread, perhaps one of the only ones in this forum and the one below where some real dialogue was going on regarding the issue of separation. Thanks er1001, Aefting, Colorado_Cop, Bro. Lacy et al for a supreme example of how the issues can be discussed without a lot of vitriol injected.

I believe that Bro. Lacy and er1001 did seem to be the more persuasive ones of the bunch and agree with their stands.

I would very much have liked to participate in this thread to a greater extent but it seems Dr. Bob with his "witty and intelligent" banter derailed yet another thread. Debating KJVOs sure has a way of making one piercing with their speech and this has a way of ending discussion. Oh, I wish the last two pages of this topic were erased.

I would very like to revive this thread as it has been helpful to me and I am sure to others. I am willing to ignore Dr. Bob when he starts crop dusting if you guys are.

I also have a lot of questions for those who have more experience in their Christian walk (I've only been saved five years) and who are "hyperfundamentalist" and those who are "hypofundamentalist."

Would it be better to start another thread? Can I get special permission from the Webmaster to control the direction of the new thread?

Thanks,

Jason

 

Colorado Cop,

What about the verse in 2 Cor 6: 17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," i think that it is pretty clear that God wants you to be separate. Also the Bible talks about in Eph 5:19,"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;" where does that say anything about it being OK to have 'modern' music? Another verse tells us in John 4:23 and 24, " But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." This means that GOD has standards by which HE must be worshipped.

 

Dr Bob,

Just one question. Can God contradict Himself. If not, then there is a problem with your "version(s)".

 

KJV Warrior, there are plenty of other threads to hijack in the Versions forum.

 

The second poster on this thread implied that the KJVO position was inherent in the classification of someone as Hyper. It was off the subject. He was not "shot down". Most of us(for the first two pages or so) stuck with the subject. It would be good advice for both sides of the KJV debate to "go to the Versions Forum" to debete versions. Then maybe this thread would stay on topic.

If nothing else it proves that we (KJVO's) are gullible enough to be baited. And perhaps too passionate at times to turn the other cheek. We'll try to do better.

Lacy

 

Thanks for the good advise from Lacy and Dr. Bob. Keep the version debate in the version forum.
Thanks
Murph

 

First Dr Bob, you didn't answer my first question, secondly I am a Hyper fundamendalist, because I believe what God has said. Another question for you. ***Versions will not be argued here*** Also I would like to remind you that Jesus Himself added to the Law in Matthew 5:21- 48, Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mt 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mt 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mt 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mt 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

Mt 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mt 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mt 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mt 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mt 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mt 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mt 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mt 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

Mt 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Mt 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Mt 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Mt 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

Mt 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Mt 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Mt 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mt 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mt 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mt 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

[ April 21, 2004, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: C.S. Murphy ]