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What is it Charismatics believe?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Plain Old Bill, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. DHK

    DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    Go to some of the debate forums with Muslims. Americans tend only to look at the negative side of Islam because of the extreme faction. In fact Islam has contributed much (much more than the Charismatic movement will ever contribute) good. They have contributed in the areas of art, architecture, literature, even medicine, and in many other areas--mostly unknow to Americans who know Muslims as only as a bunch of terrorists--a broad stereotyped paint brush which does injustice to the one billion Muslims that live on this earth.

    The Charismatic movement is in effect a false religion that one day will become part and parcel of the religion of the anti-Christ. It knows no boundaries. It transcends and encompasses all religions. Hindus, Mormons, the Voo-doo worshippers of Haiti--they all speak in tongues. These along with main-line liberal denominations who deny the deity of Christ such as some United Churches of Canada, Methodist Churches, liberal congregational, etc. And what do you do with the Charismatic Catholics? The Charismatic movement is the tool in the devil's hand used by the ecumenical movemement to bring all religions together.
    Thus, when the article speaks of Charismatic mainstream doctrine, what is he referring to? The Charismatic movement has no mainstream doctrine except speaking in tongues, and the typical experiences of a Charismatic which define the movement. One popular leader of a Charismatic program, who regularly has a Charismatic Catholic priest on his show, has (more than once) prayed, "O God, deliver us from doctrine."

    Yes, doctrine is evil. Doctrine divides. They don't want doctrine. That is why they can so easily accept Benny Hinn's nine person trinity, the god-is-in-you theology. Unity, not theology is the rallying word.
    Your critic has set forth his own straw man by picking and choosing his own examples. His example of the kindergarten material was irrelevant. The truth is that MacArthur quotes extensively from first hand material: straight from TBN conversations--the very words of Paul and Jan Crouch, the writings and conversations of the such as Benny Hinn and others that make up the leaders of the present day Charismatic movement.
    He asks why MacArthur doesn't quote from Moody or from A.B. Simpson? Is he foolish? Simpson and Moody were not Charismatics and had nothing to do with either the Charismatic movement or its foundation. He has set up his own strawman and would like to compare the Charismatic movement to mainstream Christianity, but in reality it has nothing to do with it. It is a 20th century phenomena. It did not exist before the 20th century.
    It associates itself with unbelievers of all kinds--even other world religions that have nothing to do with Christianity. Hindus speak in tongues. Is it of God? --The unifying force of the anti-Christ--that which he will use in the end times to bring about a one world religion. It is inherently evil. Any sincere Christian that has been deceived into following should have nothing to do with. I do believe that there are many sincere Christians involved in this, but they are deceived in their theology and in their association with it. It is not of God.
    "Come out from among them saith the Lord."
    DHK
     
  2. atestring

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    Read your history DKH.
    The cessationist heresy never showed up in Baptist Writings before the trun of the 20th century. Read the New Hampshire Confession and you will find some things that are very Charismatic. Study the Cane Ridge Revival of 1801 in Paris KEntucky. Study the life of Charles Finney, and Jonathan Edwards and the life of John Wesley and George Whitfield and you will no longer call the Charismatic Movement a 20th century phenomena.
    I don't expect you to study these because you have made up your mind to follow John Macarthur.
    I would challenge you to read the reason that John Macarthur in his Book Charismatic Chaos that the Charismatic Movement is flourishing. According to him it is because non Charismatic churches are dry. He is right about that. I been to too many dry Church services. Stay dry if you want to but I'll take all that God has for me.
    By the way there is nothing in Baptist doctrine that officially fobids the Charismatic Movement. The SBC will not even edeeal with this by a resolution because 20% of all SBC are reported to have Charismatic Leanings. The State of Florida on a state level is the exception. The Georgia Baptist tried to get a resolution against the Charismatic and it failed.
    By the way ever heard of a scripture that says, having a form of godliness and denying the power thereof?
    How about the scripture that says quench not the Spirit?
     
  3. Jesus is Lord

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    This is a perfect example of a spiritually dangerous argument. Benny Hinn repented on TBN and declared this statement as false, because it was not in the Bible. He repented, that means he is forgiven and the blood of Jesus has cleansed him. How dangerous is it to use a fault which has been forgiven to accuse somebody?
     
  4. DHK

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    This is a perfect example of a spiritually dangerous argument. Benny Hinn repented on TBN and declared this statement as false, because it was not in the Bible. He repented, that means he is forgiven and the blood of Jesus has cleansed him. How dangerous is it to use a fault which has been forgiven to accuse somebody? </font>[/QUOTE]Benny Hinn's repentance is false. As a dog returns to his vomit, so Hinn returned to his own heresies. He was and still remains to this day a false prophet.
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  5. DHK

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    A false prophet? A heretic? You decide:
    http://www.apologeticsindex.org/t11.html

    http://www.apologeticsindex.org/h01.html

    http://www.apologeticsindex.org/h01.html

    Benny Hinn hasn't changed any. He is still the same heretic as he was before.
    "A heretic after the first and second adomonition, reject."
    DHK
     
  6. Marcia

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    Hinn repenting on TBN is rather ironic given what TBN promotes. TBN features Word Faith and Oneness teachers regularly. I even saw TBN have Della Reese on. While she talked, people in the audience clapped and said, "Amen." Della Reese is minister of a church whose teachings are New Thought and are not Christian at all.

    More on Hinn:

     
  7. Pete

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    In the time I attended "alphabet soup" Churches (aog/clc/etc) it was amazing the number of times those verses were used to promote their manifestation of the month. The usage level of those verses was pretty close to the non-usage level of 1 Timothy 4:16, 2 Timothy 4:3, Titus 2:1, etc etc...
     
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