What is it to Backslide?

Jer 5:1 ¶ Run ye to and fro through the streets of Jerusalem, and see now, and know, and seek in the broad places thereof, if ye can find a man, if there be any that executeth judgment, that seeketh the truth; and I will pardon it.
2 And though they say, The LORD liveth; surely they swear falsely.
3 O LORD, are not thine eyes upon the truth? thou hast stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction: they have made their faces harder than a rock; they have refused to return.
4 Therefore I said, Surely these are poor; they are foolish: for they know not the way of the LORD, nor the judgment of their God.
5 I will get me unto the great men, and will speak unto them; for they have known the way of the LORD, and the judgment of their God: but these have altogether broken the yoke, and burst the bonds.
6 Wherefore a lion out of the forest shall slay them, and a wolf of the evenings shall spoil them, a leopard shall watch over their cities: every one that goeth out thence shall be torn in pieces: because their transgressions are many, and their backslidings are increased.
7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses.
8 They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour's wife.
9 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
10 ¶ Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD'S.
11 For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD.
12 They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:
13 And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.
14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
15 Lo, I will bring a nation upon you from far, O house of Israel, saith the LORD: it is a mighty nation, it is an ancient nation, a nation whose language thou knowest not, neither understandest what they say.
16 Their quiver is as an open sepulchre, they are all mighty men.
17 And they shall eat up thine harvest, and thy bread, which thy sons and thy daughters should eat: they shall eat up thy flocks and thine herds: they shall eat up thy vines and thy fig trees: they shall impoverish thy fenced cities, wherein thou trustedst, with the sword.
18 Nevertheless in those days, saith the LORD, I will not make a full end with you.
19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the LORD our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not yours.
20 ¶ Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying,
21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand for the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?
23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.
24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest.
25 ¶ Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you.
26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

HP: What is the meaning of this text?

 

HP: And I thought I heard some on this list telling us that if we committ such things as adultery we could expect to receive our rewards early? What does this passage say about those fed by the Lord yet turn from His instruction in willful disobedience?

 

12 They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:


HP: What do you think this verse might be saying?

 

HP: Sounds a lot like the notion that they needed those moral commandments in the OT, but under grace we don’t. Are you in agreement with those on the list that say that you can commit adultery, murder, etc. and refuse to repent of it but as a believer still make it in? Just wondering if you’re of that stripe.

 

HP: If sin is s disgusting, why does one keep doing it? I am afraid some do not understand the nature of sin, in that sin is a selfish intent formed to gratify, not disgust, the individual. Sin has a pleasurable side. If it did not, no one would sin. There would be no motivation for it.

It is double talk to say that I love God, and I don’t want to sin but I do. Sin is the willful transgression of a law. If you did not want to you would have no desire to sin. Because one sins, it is living proof that they indeed do want and desire to sin.

I say that some on this list believe that it is OK to sin because they say it can be done with impunity. They claim it does not matter what sin we commit, even murder or adultery, etc., if we are born again it does not affect our standing with God. If that is not placing a green light on sin, the pope is not a Catholic. Why don’t you ask those on the list why they believe that a person can have sin excused without sincere repentance, when God says that unless we repent we shall all likewise perish?

If your husband told you that he had a ‘deep love for you’ yet goes out and commits adultery, are you still going to tell me that your faith in his ‘deep love’ remains unchanged or unquestioned? Hello! Deep love Amy is seen and evidenced by obedience and faithfulness. Sin is a direct sign that ones love is not deep and ones commitment is at best on shaky ground.

 

HP: Paul is a most unusual case. As far as the passage in question either he was the most confused or the biggest liar that ever lived in Chapters 6 & 8, or he was speaking of his condition before He met the Lord in the passage you quote from in chapter 7. I am convinced the latter is true. He was speaking of his feelings as an unsaved individual in Chapter 7.

 

HP: This is a weak argument that hold no weight in common communications. Writers and speakers utilize present tense to illustrate past tense actions every day.

 

HP: Yes as a matter of fact it only takes………..’basic reading skills’ applied to Chapters 6 & 8:thumbs:

 

Amy, What does it mean to backslide?

 

HP: What is sad is that all you are able to add to this discussion is personal attacks and attempting to impugn ones motives. You would accomplish more if you would just go back to fighting windmills.