What is preiminent? God's will or God's nature.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by humblethinker, Aug 30, 2011.

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Is it possibly the case that it was God's will that He be bound by His nature?

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  1. Yes, I think so

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  3. I'm not sure

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  4. I have an opinion that I feel does not comport with any answer offered but this one, see my post.

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  1. humblethinker

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    Is it possible that it is the case that It was God's will that He be bound by His nature?
     
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    Are you asking IF due to His very nature, there are things even God will not Will Himself to be able to do? Such as to sin?
     
  3. quantumfaith

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    Not sure because I am not sure I understand the premise.
     
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    Think we are being asked here IF we hold to God "limited" Himself by His Will, or else by His nature, which came first!
     
  5. Don

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    But one could feasibly argue that His will and His nature are inseparable. Each are the result of the other.
     
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    How can anything about God be preeminent? Are you asking if He is divided with Himself?
     
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    God is by definite Infinite, ALL aspects happening from eternity , so your answer seems good to me!

    I see it as being his very nature will NOT allow Him to even will that certain things get done, such as Him sinning, that would VEVER be allowed to even get to the point of a thought, not in His nature
     
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    Two Scriptures verses help us.

    Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

    Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:


    God cannot act contrary to his nature.
     
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    Trying to explain what is not explained in scripture is foolish.
     
  10. quantumfaith

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    I disagree respectfully with the label of foolish, God created us with intellect and rationality. However, whenever we seek to speculate about things which have little to no data about, particularly things of a metaphysical nature, we should do so with the greatest of humility and recognition of our limits, never pridefully nor "matter of fact....ly"
     
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    :thumbsup::love2::thumbsup::love2:.........
     
  12. humblethinker

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    Are you saying that to explain 'definitively' and 'with certainty' would be foolish? If so, fair enough.

    Are you saying that questions that don't appear to have some sort of definite explanation should not be asked? If so, how would one ever know then what questions not to ask? How does one resolve himself to the things that he does not understand? If one doesn't understand something does that mean that no one else does either? Should one simply not inquire?

    Maybe the answer to such metaphysical ideas should be offered as, "I don't know for sure and it's my opinion that no one else knows for a certainty either.".

    It seems we often are so quick and hasty to limit God by our own understanding, as though our ideas of God prescribes and forces upon God what and how He must need to be.

    <searching> Where is that 'metaphysical' section of the BB........ ;-)
     

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