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What is the life of one child worth?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ajg1959, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. ajg1959

    ajg1959 New Member

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    Are you saying that as long as we are fighting a war that abortion should stay legal?

    Are you saying that it wouldnt be "fair" to outlaw the murder of innocent aborted babies while children are being killed in war?

    Thats just silly. And, if we wait until children no longer die in wars to abolish abortion, then it will never be abolished. I know it sounds morally high spirited to stand up for infant war casualities, and makes folks ooh and ahhh because you care so much, but the reality is that children have been killed in war since the beginning of time, and it isnt going to stop now.

    I am not saying that infant casualites are right, I am just saying that they are an unavoidable reality of war.

    We cant stop war casualities, but we can stop legal abortion.

    AJ
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    FIrst of all, read again. I don't defend abortion. I am against it with a few exceptions. SO don't misrepresent my position. Secondly, I never said conservative Christians are ignorant, so there is yet another strawman. I don't believe that, and you should know it. It is gettinhg tiring having people misrepresent my statements. For example, the miscarriage comment was a logic exercise to get a response from another poster. I have been accused of questioning God on that, which is not true. I never said anyone was stupid. I said they need to read carefully and not just pick out a comment as my advocating anything. Folks seem to selectively read into words what they want.

    I'll be happy to accept your apology.
     
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    I will be happy to accept your apology on the other thread. Still waiting. :)
     
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    I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. I don't believe that anyone can be a stronger opponent to abortion than I, equal yes but not stronger. My point is that I find it impossible to be cavalier about the death of one infant, while outraged at the death of another one. Both deaths in both circumstances turns my stomach, and I abhor them both.
     
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    People don't misrepresent you, they take what you say at face value.
     
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    That is right and then when he finds himself in a corner he wants to change the intent of what he said. Clinton's legacy lives on.
     
  7. ajg1959

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    My point is that we can do something about abortion, but we cant do anything about war casualties. Yes, children being killed in war is a horrible thing, but there is nothing we do about that.

    I am not cavalier about war deaths, I just dont see what that has to with abortion.

    AJ
     
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    I don't support war, I hate it.

    Maybe not, but by having the attitude of, oh well there is nothing I can do about it, you are lessening the value of one child's life over another's. There are many people that take the position about abortion of, oh well it is the law so whatever, it is out of my hands. How would you feel about that persons attitude?
    If you had taken the time to see what I was responding to before you had answered you would have seen I was responding to the suggestion that the only ones' that don't have a choice (in dying) are the aborted babies. I asked what about the babies that die in war? The obvious and only answer is they don't have a choice either regardless if one is as outraged at their death or not.

    I do agree with everything in your OP by the way.
     
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  9. Dragoon68

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    War is not murder and capital punishment is not murder but abortion is murder.
     
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    Dragoon, some can't seem to understand that difference. It is a means of justifying their support of the murder of babies as a matter of casual choice which is much different that casualties of war or sending a murderer on to his or her final judgment.
     
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    Some people do not want to understand the difference.

    It pretty much comes down to this:

    Those who are against abortion believe it is murder. Period.

    Those who are for abortion seek to justify their position by framing it in the same catagory as capital punishment and war.

    Nobody is kidding anybody on this board, no matter how many straw men are piled on.

    The bottom line is a condition of the heart and whether or not a person's world view is based upon God's Word as the final authority.
     
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    Why don't you do something about stopping abortion instead of continually whining about it? I suggest a new tact. Don't put your faith in the Republican party. They are playing you for a fool.
     
  13. Dragoon68

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    Why don't you join us in proclaiming abortion to be murder that should not be permitted under any circumstances? Why don't you join us in standing firm that the full force of law should be used against it?
     
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    Probably won't happen. There's more interest in appeasing terrorists, universal health care, taxing the evil rich, protecting homosexual marriage rights, pandering to unions, nationalizing banks, oil companies, etc and protecting the rights of women to choose to murder the baby developing in her womb. While I don't like the Republican party I'd take over the Democrats any day of the week.
     
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    Why don't you speak out against the illegal bombing of Pakistan ?
     
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    JC is not going to say anything critical of his "dear leader" and that is a fact; at least until he proves different.
     
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    Actually by voting for O'bama you promoted abortion, One of his first acts was to rescind the policy of Reagan and the Bushes to deny taxpayer money to fund abortions in foreign countries. So your comments to Lady eagle are Hyper Hypocritical.

    It is all the professing Christians who voted for O'bama who were foolish.
     
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    Actually my faith is in God's Word. I am anti-abortion because of my faith in God, not the Republican Party. I am very sorry that you cant see that.

    AJ
     
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    A quick search of the internet shows the average cost of an abortion to be $350 to $700.

    So to the abortionist that makes his living killing the unborn that seems to be what it's worth.

    Of course that would be gross income - most likely there are expenses involved.

    Man, I would not want to be that guy standing before the White Throne !!

    Doesn't the cheap value that some put on human life just make you sick. :tear:
     
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    He can it is the only excuse he has to justify voting for someone who supports open ended abortions as Obama does.
     
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