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What is up with this president?!?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Don, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. mandym

    mandym New Member

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    This makes no sense
     
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Okay - let me clarify.

    Both parties are content to put on their little shows and convince everyone that there is a difference. They campaign and promise and do little symbolic gestures to placate the masses, but neither one really wants what they say they want in order to get votes. All they want is the votes to maintain the status quo comfort zone.

    In order to avoid any real change they pass legislation to make it difficult for third party candidates to get on the ballot - thus ensuring that their little Republicat show is not threatened.

    And you can't really tell the pigs from the men after a while.
     
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  3. mandym

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    I don't believe they do not want third party candidates because they do not want change. I believe they do nto want them because they want to be the one to make the change. A third party would split the vote of one side or another. Giving the other side the upper hand. I am all for a third, fourth or as many parties as can be created. But I do not think that the opposition to it is quite the conspiracy you have created for yourself.
     
  4. InTheLight

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    Ummm...the Reichstag fire was in 1933, about a month after Hitler was named Chancellor of Germany.
     
  5. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
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    I agree with this as it pertains to certain issues. Abortion rights comes to mind immediately. Gun control, perhaps. But pocketbook issues like taxation and loopholes, spending and earmarks they definitely do have differences and they do legislate change.

    It would be interesting to make a list of those issues that politicians are apt to tackle and those that they only give lip service to in order to maintain support from their core constituents.
     
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    Yep. This is what happens time and time again.
     
  7. mandym

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    I apologize I should not have said "makes no sense" I did not intend it to sound as maybe it did. I should have simply said I did not understand it.
     
  8. billwald

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    >>What is Obama supposed to to about the Japanese Nuke problem?

    >Play golf.

    >Same thing he does about all sorts of problems

    Same stupid answer from carpro.

    Carpro: please explain to all of us exactly what Obama's response to a runaway nuke plant in Japan should be?
     
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    So is he only doing good if he's doing short-term fixes? He's not doing anything to help...short, or long-term.

    I'd applaud this guy if he would quit kicking the can down the road on any issue...much like his predecessors have done.
     
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    How will domestic drilling lower the price in the long run? Why should gas be sold for less than people are willing to pay?
     
  11. rbell

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    I know it goes against union policy...but it's this thing called "supply and demand."

    Basic economics.

    Domestic drilling plus increased refinery capacity=lower prices.
     
  12. InTheLight

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    Yes, it works in most cases and more domestic drilling would help lower or at least control the cost of oil. However, artificially suppressing supply is possible in the oil industry and has worked wonders for the diamond industry.
     
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    Interesting. President Obama stayed out of the Libya situation, France and Britain pushed for a no-fly resolution in the UN, (which was passed), France was ready to launch a military attack, and a cease fire was announced in Libya.

    Maybe the US should stay out of these things more often?
     
  15. InTheLight

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    LOL. Yeah, I'm waiting for the spin from the Obama administration saying they correctly read the world situation and deduced that to do nothing was the prudent and correct thing to do!
     
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    The point is that there is no need for the US to be the world's policeman. Maybe it is time for other countries to step up to the plate.
     
  17. billwald

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    rbell needs to go back to school and read the papers.

    > I know it goes against union policy...but it's this thing called "supply and demand."

    Has the demand dropped?

    >Basic economics.

    Basic economics teaches that prices should be raised until net profit drops. If the profit rises then prices are to low unless gas is being sold as a loss leader.

    >Domestic drilling plus increased refinery capacity=lower prices

    Then you want domestic oil to be nationalized?

    By the way, does rbell think that the tankers which bring us Arab oil are returning empty? If not, what does rbell think the tankers are filled with?
     
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    Basically, he doesn't care. He doesn't have a plan. He is fickle and arrogant.
     
  19. HankD

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    Ya, how about Ireland?

    Or maybe Switzerland?

    HankD
     
  20. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    France and the UK did a pretty good job this time.
     
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