What is your prayer life like?

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  1. Carson Weber

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    What is your prayer life like?

    Do you schedule your prayer?

    How do you pray?

    Do you kneel? Sit? Stand?

    What is the content of your prayer?
     
  2. Yelsew

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    It is absolutely wonderful to be able to pray directly to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

    It is absolutely wonderful to not have to pray to those who have no bearing on answering prayers, and who have no power to render aid.

    It is absolutely wonderful to be able to speak to deity as if speaking to my own earthly father, not using vain repitition, not using memorized prayers, not reciting the prayers that others handed down.

    It is absolutely wonder to have the assurance that my prayers are heard by divine loving God, who is the author of my salvation, and not praying to those who were just like me, sinner's saved by their faith.

    I don't have a set schedule, I have prayer habit. I pray upon arising from sleep, I thank God for my provisions, I pray before retiring as habits. I pray as the Holy Spirit brings to my mind someone who is in need of prayer. I pray when driving, I pray when waiting in lines, I pray when sick, when well, when happy, when sad, etc.

    I Pray with silent prayer, I pray with singing, I pray outloud, and when in distress, I go into my prayer corner, kneel with a list of things I am led to pray for.

    Content is between me and the Father.
     
  3. Kathryn

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    The challenge to me is to pray without ceasing as described in 1 Thess 5:17. I had never really thought much about this verse in Scripture before reading the book The Way of the Pilgrim . It has expanded for me my relationship with Jesus Christ and my faith has grown, which is what prayer for me is about.

    I generally don’t kneel although I love the respect and honor it shows. I silently talk freely to God frequently throughout the day. I like to pray a morning offering prayer when I lie in bed before getting up. My husband and I both say grace together at meals. Before going to sleep, I lay in bed and pray the “Our Father”, “Hail Mary”, “Glory Be”, “Soul of Christ, sanctify me”, “Breathe in me, O Holy Spirit”, “St. Michael the Archangel prayer” and I pray the “23rd Psalm”. I like to memorize classic prayers from the Church Fathers and saints. To me it is like planting spiritual trees in my mind and soul that are always with me. However, my favorite of all is “Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, have mercy on me a sinner.” which is the ejaculation I try to pray without ceasing.

    God Bless


    Breathe in me
    O Holy Spirit
    that my thoughts
    may all be holy.

    Act in me
    O Holy Spirit
    that my work, too,
    may be holy.

    Draw my heart
    O Holy Spirit
    that I love but
    what is holy.

    Strengthen me
    O Holy Spirit
    to defend all
    that is holy.

    Guard me then
    O Holy Spirit
    that I always
    may be holy.

    St. Augustine

    [ May 17, 2003, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: Kathryn ]
     
  4. neal4christ

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    Let's see.....

    It could be better. I would like to spend more time in prayer. Somehow I get caught up with everything else and have a hard time focusing at times. :rolleyes:

    No, I don't really 'schedule' prayer. It is usually (my formal time) after my Bible study. That time varies because I work weird hours and I have class. Besides that, I strive to be in a constant mindset of prayer.

    I am not sure what you are asking. Out loud at times, quietly others, and sometimes I just don't have the words to say.

    I usually kneel. Although, I do like to sit on my front porch and pray. [​IMG]

    Sorry, but content is between the Father and I. Although, I spend time praising Him, thanking Him, asking for guidance, praying about my wife and I, and others as well. No set content, really just what is on my heart.

    As Yelsew said, what an honor to be able to pray to the Creator of everything! I am in awe that I can "with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need." Hebrews 4:16, ESV

    Neal
     
  5. Ben W

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    Gidday Carson,

    I usually pray throughout the day. I used to try to have a half hour prayer time every day first thing in the morning. Yet I found that the idea of trying to spend time in some type of fellowship with God more appealing.

    Also I read a book called "Good Morning Holy Spirit" by Benny Hinn which made me think about the fact that He is Gods Voice and Ears on the Earth. So I have tried to focus on following the Holy Spirits leading to God which is really interesting in that The Holy Spirit actually helps you into that relationship with God. Yet often people do not want to include the Holy Spirit in any part of there prayer life. So it is an interesting challenge.
     
  6. MEE

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    I have often wondered about how a Trinitarian prays. Do you all pray to each of the three persons in the Trinity individually, or just to the Father?

    I'm going to figure out this doctrine of the Trinity, before I'm finished. ;)

    Just curious,
    MEE [​IMG]
     
  7. Carson Weber

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    Question: Do you all pray to each of the three persons in the Trinity individually, or just to the Father?

    Answer: We pray to the Father through Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit. Prayer in itself is a Trinitarian action.. we cannot reach the Father except through Jesus Christ, and the Spirit empowers us to do so. The Trinity is one - and each action proceeding from the Trinity or going back to the Trinity from creation (e.g., prayer) involves all three persons, who are inseparably united in the communion of divine life.

    "There is no other way of Christian prayer than Christ. Whether our prayer is communal or personal, vocal or interior, it has access to the Father only if we pray 'in the name' of Jesus. The sacred humanity of Jesus is therefore the way by which the Holy Spirit teaches us to pray to God our Father" (CCC 2664)

    "No one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit. Every time we begin to pray to Jesus it is the Holy Spirit who draws us on the way of prayer by his prevenient grace. Since he teaches us to pray by recalling Christ, how could we not pray to the Spirit too? That is why the Church invites us to call upon the Holy Spirit every day, especially at the beginning and the end of every important action" (CCC 2670)

    I suggest reading Article 2, The Way of Prayer, in Part Four, Chapter 2 of the Universal Catechism of the Catholic Church (1992 - French, 1994 - English, 1997 - Latin), which speaks extensively on this:

    http://198.62.75.1/www1/CDHN/pray3.html#WAY

    I would rather not debate the Trinity on this thread if that's okay with you.. I did, however, want to provide you with an answer to your question - whether you accept it as tenable or not.

    MEE, what is your prayer life like?

    [ May 17, 2003, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: Carson Weber ]
     
  8. neal4christ

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    Agreed. I pray to the Father. After all, that was how Jesus taught His disciples to pray. Ontologically the Trinity are all one God. Economically they are different persons. But I digress......sorry Carson for carrying it further off track. I just wanted to point out as well that we agree on something! [​IMG]

    Neal
     
  9. Carson Weber

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    Ontologically the Trinity are all one God. Economically they are different persons.

    Just a nota bene.. the Trinity is one God and three persons ontologically; this is three persons (or relations) sharing one ousia (substance/essence/being).

    The Economic Trinity pertains to the work of God in creation. Economy comes from the Greek oikonomia: oikos = household & nomia = law. The divine economy is how God fathers his household, and we get the actual term oikonomia from the Fathers of the Church (i.e. Irenaeus).

    I believe what you are referring to, Neal, is that we attribute different actions in the oikonomia to different relations within the ontological Trinity. To say that the ousia of God is ontological whereas the persons are economic is to fall into the heresy of modalism (e.g. Sabellius).

    I hereby order all digression to cease! [​IMG]
     
  10. Carson Weber

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    I've come to the point where I've been able to structure my prayer as a daily discipline of love. First, I rise in the morning and offer my day to the divine will. I then renew my consecration to Mary using St. Maximillian Kolbe's suggested prayer. I ask then for the guidance, light, direction, and protection of my guardian angel, and I finish with some time of quiet contemplation in the presence of the Lord.

    I attend the daily liturgy by trying to arrive at least 10 to 15 minutes early in preparation for worship and communion. And, afterwards, I spend at least a couple of minutes in thanksgiving and in conversation with our Blessed Mother, asking for her guidance in various issues, esp. with regards to my vocation and for intercession regarding various intentions and conversions needed in the lives of people in my life.

    And each night, I recite the following prayer:

    "O eternal God and ruler of all creation, You have allowed me to reach this hour. Forgive the sins I have committed this day by word, deed, or thought. Purify me, O Lord, from every spiritual and physical stain. Grant that I may rise from this sleep to glorify you by my deeds throughout my entire lifetime, and that I be victorious over my every spiritual and physical enemy. Deliver me, O Lord, from all vain thoughts and from evil desires, for yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, now and ever, and forever. Amen."

    And try to pray the liturgy of the hours for either evening or night prayer in union with the rest of the Church.

    Besides this, I try to spend at least one hour in Eucharistic adoration during my scheduled holy hour down at the huge Irish church in downtown Steubenville. This time is generally spent meditating and praying over Thomas a Kempis' The Imitation of Christ and our Lady's Rosary.

    Apart from this schedule, I try to keep the holy name of Jesus on my lips throughout the day, making his life my meditation, contemplation, and guide.

    At present, I'm praying a novena to the Holy Spirit for the Seven Gifts in union with five other friends for the conversion of two Protestant friends who are considering the Catholic faith. I have found novenas (following the nine days prayed by the apostles, disciples, and Our Lady between the Ascension and Pentecost) to be a powerful and rejuvenating form of intercessory prayer.

    An assortment of different guides for prayer can be found on the EWTN website; I've found these to be indispensable in structuring, ordering, and guiding my daily prayer:

    Prayers
    http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/prayers/prayers.htm

    Novenas
    http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/prayers/novena.htm

    Litanies
    http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/Litanies/index.htm
     
  11. Mike McK

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    Healthy.

    Mmm...yes and no. I try to have a time in the morning when I can go sit on the dock or out on the swing with my Bible and pray but, for me, I'm working on being in a constant "attitude of prayer", as an old pastor friend of mine would say.

    ?

    Yes.

    Depends. Sometimes it's suplication. Sometimes it's worshipful. Sometimes it's conversational. Sometimes it's just listening.
     
  12. Yelsew

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    Agreed. I pray to the Father. After all, that was how Jesus taught His disciples to pray. Ontologically the Trinity are all one God. Economically they are different persons. But I digress......sorry Carson for carrying it further off track. I just wanted to point out as well that we agree on something! [​IMG]

    Neal
    </font>[/QUOTE]I pray to the father in the name of my Lord, and Savior, Jesus the Christ. There is no stated reason to pray "through" Jesus! AND ABSOLUTELY no reason to pray to a saint or even in a saints name or for a saint's sake.
     
  13. dianetavegia

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    My prayer life has changed drastically in the last year or so. My 8 year old reminds me that we need to pray over everything. We hold hands and pray for things most people would consider trivial but Nick has been taught that we take all to God in prayer and he holds me to that.

    We pray when people are ugly to us or for the bully at church. We pray when he sees something on t.v. news. We pray when he hears of bad weather or see a sign for a missing cat.....

    One night Nick told me I needed to pray again. He quoted scripture to me, "Don't worry about anything but in all your prayers ask God for what you need and always ask with a thankful heart." He felt I had rushed and did not sound thankful or trusting! He was right!

    We pray in Jesus name.

    Diane and Nick (8 1/2)
     
  14. Mike McK

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    Was Paul wrong for "thanking God through Jesus Christ" in Romans 1:8?

    Romans 5:1 says that we have "peace with God through our Lord, Jesus Christ".

    Romans 5:11 says that "we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ"

    Romans 6:11 tells us that we are "alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Romans 7:25 - "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Romans 8:37 - "Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us."

    Romans 11:36 - "For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

    Roman 15:17 - "I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God."

    Romans 16:27 - "To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen."

    I Cor 15:57 - "But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

    II Cor 3:4 - "And such trust have we through Christ"

    Gal 3:14 - "That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ;"

    Gal 4:7 - "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."

    Gal 2:7 - "That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus."

    Gal 2:18 - "For through Him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father."

    Phil 4:7 - "And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."

    Phil 4:13 - "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

    Titus 3:6 - "Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;"

    Heb 13:21 - "Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen."

    I Peter 4:11 - " that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    2Pe 1:1 - that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    2Pe 1:1 - "that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."

    2 Peter 2:20 - "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,"

    I John 4:9 - "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him."

    Heb 10:10 - "By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all."


    There are several that I left out but you get the idea.
     
  15. Kiffin

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    Here is a Trinitarian prayer that is primarily designed for corporate worship. Of course it has elements of the Apostles', Nicene and Athanasian creed in it,

    O Lord God, Holy Trinity, Forgive us of our sins that we have committed and come and dwell within our assembly.

    We believe in You, God, the Father Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, and

    We believe in You our Lord Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. You descended into hell and the third day You arose again from the dead. You ascended into heaven and you sit now at the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from where You shall come to judge the living and the dead. And

    We believe in You our Comforter, O Holy Spirit, the Lord, and Giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified.

    We confess You Father as God, We confess You Jesus Christ the Son as God, and We confess You our Comforter the Holy Spirit as God;

    Father, Son and Holy Spirit, three persons yet One God, with Your light and Your leadership guide ,our thoughts, and all our actions, that we may learn from Your Word, offer worthy praise and that Your power and presence may be in this congregation and in the church universal. By the intercession of Jesus Christ our Lord, we pray, Amen.


     
  16. DanielFive

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    I agree, through Jesus we have accessby the Spirit to the Father (Ephesians 2:18) having come to Christ, we pray directly to the Father by the Spirit in Jesus' name.

    Enda
     
  17. Yelsew

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    Mike McK,

    Jesus taught us to pray to the Father. He Taught us to pray directly to the father, calling Him Father.

    Since Jesus is one of the person's of the triune Godhead, thus deity, it is proper to pray to Jesus, and when praying to Jesus one is praying through Jesus.

    It is not however, proper to pray to those whose condition is the same as ours, sinners, saved through faith.
     
  18. Mike McK

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    OK. That's between you and God. I prefer to pray to the Father through Christ but that's me.

    You said that there was "no stated reason to pray 'through' Jesus" and I just listed some scripture verses in which Paul both prayed to the Father "through Jesus" and encouraged us to do the same.

    I never said it was. I think you have me confused with someone else.
     
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    Hmm...I agree with this, I think. When I refer to them being ontologically the same, I refer to the fact that they are all one God, one essence or being (ex. John 10:30). When referring to the economical difference I was referring to their roles in the Godhead (functionally, ex. John 14:28), not exclusively in regards to creation. The Father plans, the Son does, and the Holy Spirit reveals. My philosophy professor made a good presentation on this whole subject, really helped me to grasp the idea of the Trinity, because for a long time it was one of those things that hurt my brain to think about. [​IMG]

    Okay, I am done digressing. This is for another thread. [​IMG]

    Neal

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  20. TP

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    Greetings,

    YOU said: It is absolutely wonderful to be able to speak to deity as if speaking to my own earthly father, not using vain repitition, not using memorized prayers, not reciting the prayers that others handed down.


    Reply: Does that mean you do not sing any songs? They are memorized prayers. Does that mean you do not pray the psalms they are memorized prayers, that others handed down. Your understanding of prayer seems so unscriptural.

    Carson, Nice to see you still here. I haven't visited this board for quite awhile. Anything New happening?

    peace,

    TP
     

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