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What Obama really thinks of white folks:

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, May 22, 2008.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    One could chop down all the forests in the country with the hatchets that have been used on Bush in the last 7 years here.:smilewinkgrin:
     
  2. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    But does that excuse it? I am no Bush supporter, but have often jumped to his defense when this kind of pseudo-politics have been used.
     
  3. carpro

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    As you say, Obama's politics are enough to send him packing. The rest is unnecessary, but...

    You mind the middle of the road. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.:thumbs:
     
  4. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I would hardly equate an attempt at a fair presentation of the facts as being in the "middle of the road."

    Every candidate deserves the right to be heard fairly and should not have to fear anyone, most notably Christians, being loose with the facts.
     
  5. Revmitchell

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    "Unjustly" Please define this. Here are some threads you remained silent on "

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=49941

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=49561

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=49836

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=49708

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=49613


    Let's stay on task here. That quote is not in the video in the op. What ever else has been said right or wrong is not related to the op. You are willing to denounce that video, declare it to be a "clear hatchet job", use an unrelated quote to defend your false claim, and you have not done your homework yourself to determine the legitimacy of the claim of the quotes in the op. You pronounced it to be something you have no evidence for right after accusing others of doing the same thing. Your position is inconsistent and incorrect as well as needs clearing up.
     
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    In each of those threads President Bush's (or others) policies were being criticised, not his character, middle name, supposed Muslim ties, or supposed racism. You will note, it there is any measure of fairness about you, that when substantive statements have been made regarding Senator Obama I have been the first to jump in an agree.

    As to the unrelated quote, you are the one to ask for an example of a "hatchet job" on this board and I gave you what you wanted.

    To be honest, the video in the OP is not worth the hours of time it would take to got through and proves its errors. It si clear from the first minute that the "producer" of this video uses printed quotes (which have already been proven can be less than honest) with brif video clips where we are not permitted to see the whole context.

    THose who want to take that video at face value have every right to do so. Those who choose not to trust it, based on other similar false charges, are also free to do so.
     
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    No candidate in modern history had a harder time being heard than the current president.

    But the alphabet media do not control the news anymore.

    Everyone will be heard. Warts and all.

    Obama , in particular, is not having a problem being heard. He has replaced the Clintons as the darling of the media. They'll also hide his warts if given a chance.

    round and round...
     
  8. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    And I don't know how that happened. Maybe there is more "news" in the first black president than the first woman?

    Of the three members of the Mod Squad (on white, one black, one blond) left Sneator Obama is, IMHO, by far the most dangerous. Not because of his middle name, the fact that his mom sent him to a Muslim school when he was 5, or patched misquotes, but because he is ill informed, inexperienced, ill prepared, and ill equipped to do the job at hand.
     
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    On that, we agree 100%.
     
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    The printed quotes have Obama's voice reciting them from his own Books on Tape.

    As far as the standing with muslims quote, it is not even mentioned on the video in the OP, as has already been pointed out, and you will notice I have corrected it in my signature.

    On that we can agree.
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Once again, a poster asked me for an example of hatchet jobs on Obama quotes here on this board, and I complied. I never claimed it was part of the harchet video in the OP. The fact that you have edited does nothing to prove that some folks are not afraid to use misquotes without verification.

    Ripping quotes out of context, whether printed or audio, proves nothing.

    I assume you have studied the context of this quotes on the video LE to make sure that they are not given just to prove an agenda.
     
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    I asked specifically for examples of hatchet jobs in this video. That was the topic of our discussion and this thread. You have yet to comply. You have yet to do the work to condemn the quotes as being out of context. I assume you studied the context of the quotes on the video CK4 to make sure your condemnation is not rash.
     
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    No in each of those threads the President and or others was falsely
     
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I would hope a could trust a member of this board to test the veracity of a post before the post.

    That clearly is not the case. We already have evidence of that.

    Why post a link to a video like this if it is not open to support AND criticism?
     
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    Well, that's pretty snide.....
     
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    The problem here is the "criticism" lacks substance. It is all blind vague criticisms used to shut down any real discussion of any points made in the ops. What you all want to do is highjack the threads with unfounded accusations of any points made in the op.

    But here is another question. Where is your outrage when Poncho posts his nutty stuff? There is a clear lack of consistancy here. On top of that I know for a fact that this new standard you are coming up with just for certain issues related to Obama is not the standard of Andrew the owner of this site. In fact his view is "let them talk".
     
  17. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I agree. Let them talk, including me.
     
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    Its simply the truth. We should be able to trust posts as authentic. This has not been the case in recent discussions.
     
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    Well the post was authentic, the quote in my signature was not, even though I tried to verify it (by sources I believed to be reliable) before it was added to my signature. When I investigated it further, I corrected the error.

    What I find disturbing in your comments is that it appears you are attacking my character. I have not deliberately tried to deceive anyone on this board nor have I intentionally tried to pass off information or links that I know to be untrue.

    Out of all of the zillions of posts on this board, how do we know that any posts are authentic, (and I don't see anything about authenticity of sources in the posting rules, BTW) or is this some kind of new litmus test that members and moderators are expected to pass when the topic is Obama?

    Edited to say: I don't know how much news you get over there in Eire, but in the US, no matter what channel we turn to for news, local, or otherwise on cable, it's Obama, Obama, Obama, ad nauseum. I dare say that should this man be elected POTUS, you probably would be better off to stay where you are, because the America you thought you left won't be here when you get back, IMHO. And my email is flooded daily with stuff about Obama from fellow Evangelical Conservative Christians, most of which I would never post on the BB. The fear of this man becoming POTUS is palpable.
     
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    To include posts like the op
     
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