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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Jul 7, 2014.
Seems pretty accurate.
No, not really.
So crabby supports abotion? Because the word healthcare there is talking about abortion.
Rev. I see your dishonest ways ... or is it ... oh well.
I was showing what Republicans believe. That does not mean I believe all the opposites. Just reporting what you believe and your war on the average American.
I do not disagree with all the Republican stances nor do I agree with all the opposites of their stances.
What about you?
You Might Be a Liberal...
If you believe that power tends to corrupt but our government should “do more,” you might be a Liberal.
If you believe “income inequality” is horrible but you don’t donate 50% of yours, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe that those who botched the rollout can run healthcare effectively, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe that criminals will follow “sensible gun laws,” you might be a Liberal.
If you believe that “society determines gender roles” & we’re not wired differently, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe FOX News is “biased” but think NBC, CNN & ABC are “fair,” you might be a Liberal.
If you believe in evolution but think all endangered species should be “protected,” you might be a Liberal.
If you believe in “diversity” when it comes to skin color but not political views, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe healthcare is a “right” but others keeping the money they earn is not, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe in “affirmative action” but not for Hollywood, the NBA or the NFL, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe disincentivizing work through prolonged welfare is “helping” people, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe “climatologists” have no monetary incentive to push global warming, you might be Liberal.
If you believe “social justice” is taking from the rich and giving to the poor, you might be a Liberal.
If you took European history and still believe big government is the answer, you might be a Liberal.
If you believe animals have souls but human embryos do not, you might be a Liberal.
And with ITL's post, this thread is over.
This list, like most things associated with politics is used as a tool of the devil to divide and distract so that he can destroy.
What does anything on the list have to do with pointing folks to Christ and making disciples? Same question of the no doubt liberally-branded lists to come. :laugh:
Nothing. You might notice that this forum is the "News and Current Events" forum, not the "Evangelism" forum.
Then perhaps we need to start acknowledging that it is also a CHRISTIAN forum that if it is not being used as a tool to encourage the body and point others to Christ, then it is probably being used to do the opposite.
The name of the forum shouldn't hinder us from In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Pro. 3:6 :thumbsup:
Perhaps if we were thinking Christ and the angle to Christ instead of politics and political factions, perhaps...just maybe...the board would start to emote the love of Christ instead of something else.:saint:
War on the average American ?
Since it's your post, why don't you tell US first ? Because if you don't, that makes your claim a lie.
"Republicans believe millions of illegal aliens should be deported (at what cost?) rather than trying to find a way to incorporate them into society (at a much lower cost)."
Suppose two phrases were changed:
"Republicans believe millions of pedophilias should be incarcerated (at what cost?) rather than trying to find a way to incorporate them into society (at a much lower cost)."
I see Crabby is posting cut and paste lies again. Let's take a look:
WRONG! Right off the bat you get it wrong. The constitution of the United States has ALREADY decided the nation's gun laws. The 2nd amendment has been the law of the land for 227 years. Get over it!
Wrong again! (You are just full of misinformation, aren't you!) Every woman has the right to make her own health care decisions (well, except under Obamacare where she can't keep her old health plan and can't keep her old doctor - the Democrats denied her that right). However, if she demands I "stay out of her bedroom" I agree, so don't expect me to pay for what goes on in the bedroom and the consequences of her decisions.
Wrong again! Wow! 0 for 3. The most effective laws limiting big business, and laws and court opinions upholding the right and ability of citizens to seek redress of grievance against those corporations has been attacked by the Democrats (IE: Citizens United).
Wrong again. You can love anyone you please. You can marry anyone you please. Government has no business being in the marriage business. Marriage is a private agreement between two parties, often including their families and the religious practitioner of their choice. And so it was for thousands of years until the Democrats decided to get into the marriage approval business. (The first marriage licenses were issued in this country to prevent African-Americans from marrying Caucasians. Then, when the railroads imported 100s of 1000s of Chinese laborers to build the rail lines, the next marriage license laws were to prevent whites and Chinese from marrying. Marriage license laws are racist and Democrat!)
Wrong yet again! Warming is real. Ocean temperatures have been on a steady rise since before 1900. The difference is that we are not stupid enough to fall for Algores "carbon exchanges" or Cap and Trades taxes. You can tax the entire world into poverty and it will still continue to get warmer, and there is absolutely NOTHING we can do about it except wait. Sometime around 2070 the natural cycle will begin to reverse itself and the Earth will experience a cooling period.
No, they believe that God created all that exists. But God does not tell us how or when that was done.
No, no, Crabby. That was Obama. He not only gave tax breaks to General Motors, he gave them billions in money stolen from our pockets. And it hasn't stopped. When the politicians in Washington finally got around to actually reading the so-called Affordable Care Act they found not one but two provisions to provide preemptive bailouts to insurance companies, those same insurance companies who have received a windfall of profits from ACA. (Which is understandable in that insurance companies are the biggest campaign contributors to Democrats. Yep. The DNC: A wholly owned subsidiary of big business.)
"Average Americans" already had affordable health care. It was a few who were financially disadvantaged who could not afford heath care but they could still, by law, go to any emergency room or urgent care facility and receive treatment regardless of ability to pay. Now that same "Average American" can no longer afford his/her health care if not provided by his/her employer.
When I retired we continued my wife's coverage out of our own pocket (she is quite a bit younger than I am). To continue her coverage in California it cost me $407 per month. Not good, but not a deal breaker either.
When we moved to Texas the same policy with the same company went up to $705 per month. Getting worse, but gotta have it. Bite the bullet and write the check.
When Obamacare kicked in (January 2014) the policy went up to $1009 per month, but was cancelled the following month because it did not offer contraception, pre and post natal care, and birth coverage. Uh, Mr. Obama! Over here! Over here! My wife is in her 60s. She went through menopause a couple decades ago. Why, exactly, did you cancel her insurance policy because it did not cover what she did not need? Trust me! She's NOT going to be getting pregnant anytime soon unless we change our names to Abraham and Sarah!
Wrong again. The Law (not Republicans, the LAW) provides that corporations be considered a fictitious person (the world "corpus" means "body") so that in the event a corporation harms you, you can sue the corporation for redress of grievance. If the corporation were not considered a fictitious person you would have to identify the individual responsible for your harm and collect from him or her. And that amount would be limited to the personal assets of the individual. But by treating a corporation as a fictitious person you can attach all of the assets of that corporation.
Once again, you have it just backward. Religious freedom, and especially the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (you remember, the one Bill Clinton signed into law) prevents a person from being discriminated against on the basis of their religion. A Roman Catholic cannot be forced to open an abortion mill, even though they operate a charity hospital. The Democrats say "Stay out of a woman's reproductive rights . . Well, except to pay for them."
Sorry, but does the phrase "No taxation without representation" mean anything to you? If I pay for it, I have a say in it. No say = no pay!
No, again, that is Obama. 2,400 people killed in Obama's drone attacks. A half dozen of them US citizens.
Unfortunately the Democrats only want what is good for the Democrats. They couldn't care less about the good of the country. Poor people have been voting for Democrats for over 100 years, and they are still poor. What does that tell you?
It is Obama who will negotiate with terrorists but refuses to sit down and negotiate with congress. And he deserves to be sued for violating the constitution and oath he took. The Supreme Court has ruled 13 times that Obama exceeded his constitutional authority.
Wrong again. All law abiding citizens have the right, under the 2nd amendment, to carry firearms for protection of self, their loved ones, and their country and liberty. It has nothing to do with "manhood." And why are you so interested in another man's "manhood?" Is there something you aren't telling us?
Wrong again. Having a strong national defense is necessary due to the fact we live in a very dangerous world. And that strong national defense maintains our liberty and the ability of every single person in this country to prosper if they are willing to work hard to do so.
Yes, millions should be deported. Those who have a record of committing vicious crimes against innocent people need to be sent packing. And those who came here to find work, and work hard, and pay their taxes, and are an asset to our country should be given a path to permanent residency.
Depends on what you mean by "word harder." Manual labor? Probably not. Working long hours to make a business successful so you can pay your employees a livable wage? Probably.
I know a billionaire. He owns several companies that employ over 15,000 people with an average annual income of over $65,000. The guy works 12-14 hours per day, 7 days per week, to keep those companies running smoothly and keep his 15,000 employees secure in their jobs and future.
Any welfare recipients doing that?
One thing I love about you Zaac is that you keep your eye on the ball, on what really matters--winning people to Christ. God bless you for that. We should all adopt this attitude, I know I'm deficient more than I care to admit.
So we're now trying to parallel the extending good ole neighborly love to aliens with the costs associated with trying and incarcerating pedophiles and caring for those who have been molested?
That's waaay left field, IMO.
excuses can always be made for why we shouldn't help people. Perhaps we should start looking at why we should?
We can bellyache about what's going on down at the border, or some enterprising KINGDOM minded folks can see this as the mission field being brought to us. It excites me that God is bringing the outermost parts into our Jerusalem. Let's love em and get em the Gospel while the opportunity presents itself.
Thanks ITL. I just sense that time is too short for the Body to get bogged down by the things of this world and that the things that we see happening should be spurring us into action for HIS KINGDOm and not THIS kingdom.:laugh:
double post sorry
From the opening post
Republicans believe the NRA should decide the nation’s gun laws
Republicans believe the people should have the power to rebel against an unjust government.
…but don’t believe a woman should decide her own health care.
Republicans believe even the weak and powerless deserve to be protected.
Republicans believe big business should be able to do whatever they want for profit
Republicans believe that free-enterprise empowers the populous to produce and encourages the creation of jobs.
but don’t believe people should marry whomever they want for love.
(Many) Republicans believe marriage is between a man and a woman.
Republicans believe the scientifically proven theory of global warming is a hoax
Republicans believe science should not be used for political gain and economic manuipulation.
…but believe in an unproven religious belief of creationism.
Republicans believe people have the right to their own religious beliefs.
Republicans believe the wealthy and big business should receive tax breaks and subsidies.
Politicians (Republicans and Democrats) believe the wealthy and big business should receive tax breaks and subsidies.
…but don’t believe the average American should have affordable health care.
Republicans believe that basic healthcare is a government responsibility, the primary responsibility should lie with the individual.
Republicans believe corporations have more rights than people.
Republicans believe corporations have responsibilities.
Republicans believe people have the right to discriminate because of religious freedom.
Americans believe people have the right to be wrong.
Republicans believe in shooting first and asking questions later.
Republicans believe individuals have the right to protect themselves.
Republicans believe in saying no to anything a Democrat proposes even if it’s good for the country.
…and Democrats believe in saying no to anything a Republican proposes even if it’s good for the country.
Republicans believe in suing the president rather than working with him.
Republicans are alarmingly concerned that after more than six years the current president still does not know how to work with Congress.
Republicans believe they should be able to carry weapons everywhere they go to prove their manhood.
Republicans believe they should be able to carry weapons.
Republicans believe we should spend as much money as possible for the military rather than spending money for helping the less fortunate.
Republicans believe strength deters malevolence.
Republicans believe millions of illegal aliens should be deported (at what cost?) rather than trying to find a way to incorporate them into society (at a much lower cost).
Republicans believe we need to secure our borders and incorporate immigrants in a lawful, orderly manner.
Republicans believe wealthy people work harder than non-wealthy people.
Republicans believe that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Republicans believe the degree an individuals pursues these rights lies with the individual, those with a greater desire will achieve grander results.
Just my feelings.
This is the idiocy that is driving countless thousands from the Republican party and the Christian faith. Equating brown people looking for work and a safe place to live with child rapists.
It just makes no sense coming out of the church. The Dems say the Repubs do this. And the Repubs say the Dems do this.
But why is anyone in the church using this as a reason to not love others as themselves?