What should we do??

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by TexasSky, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. TexasSky

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    My daughter is in missions.

    When my daughter was young, she was part of a "City Council for Youth."

    A girl that had been a friend of hers since first grade, and who attended church with us, and whose family (until this happened) we believed to be good Christians - went to school together, and often ended up at the same functions together. (As in school related functions.) The friend has always been star-struck and hungry for fame.

    One day this friend showed up at an awards-party with a New York MTV camera crew in tow, saying she had been asked to participate in a documentary on how one girl in a small conservative, religious town, dealt with issues like sex-ed.

    About 10 minutes into this, the "producer" approached the young man my daughter was dating and asked him to pose at the "friend's" boyfriend, because it would "make the documentary more real" if the girl had a boyfriend. The young man refused.

    My daughter is very beautiful. I'm not just a mom bragging, she has often been approached by friends who are involved in television or advertising to be a model and has always refused. She believes strongly that parading her body is wrong. I think she feels more strongly about it even than her Dad and I do. She noticed the camera that was supposed to be following her friend, was spending a lot of time following HER. She asked them to stop.

    In the mean time, we learned the film was basically mocking Christian beliefs, and told the family we wanted absolutely nothing to do with it. Our daughter was still a minor.

    She went to another school function, and the producer showed up, and started handing out "scripts". The kids threw them out and told the producer to leave them alone.

    The crew showed up at some of the council meetings, again, filming my daughter. Again, my daughter asked them to not include her.

    The girl's father showed up and begged my ex-husband to sign a release form saying the producers really wanted to use the footage that included my daughter. He refused. Then they contacted me. I refused.

    A few months after my daughter's 18th birthday, a man called me and said, "I was editing this film for the Sun Film Festival and we have a lot of footage on your daughter, but we have misplaced the release." I said, "You never had one. We never gave one, and won't." He tried to talk me into one, saying it would take major editing to get her out of the film. I said, "Edit."

    Three days later, the other child's mom showed up at the door, asking for my daughter. Basically she said, "You're 18, you can release it yourself." My daughter refused.

    Her other Christian friends refused.

    Well, the film WON the Sun film festival.
    This morning, an old friend stopped by my office and said, "Hon, am I losing my mind? You know that film about sex education that makes fun of Christians? I would have sworn I saw your daughter in it. The scenes at the youth council meeting."

    I called my daughter, and she said, "I just heard. Matt just called me. He said it is at the swimming pool." I said, "They have pictures of you in a swimsuit on a film about free-sex?" She said, "I don't know, Mom. I don't remember any cameras around me at a swimming pool."

    Thankfully, she was NOT in a swim suit. She had attended an event held "around" a pool, but was in a dress-suit, not a swimsuit.

    STILL - we don't know what to do.

    Do we hire an attorney?
    Do we call our own press conference?
     
  2. moeowo2

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    I personally would talk to an attorney. It wouldn't hurt to at least see if you've got a case.
     
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    If she was a minor when it was taped and they used her likeness without her permission and especially without her parents permission, I can pretty much bet there is a case. My wife has a side business with Pre-Paid Legal Services, Inc., and they handle this kind of thing all the time.

    Here for Legal Advice
     
  4. TexasSky

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    Thank you both!
     
  5. BillyMac

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    I would talk to an attorney. If they needed a signed release to show the film to the public, and went ahead and released the film any way, then likely what they have are forged documents and should be prosecuted. Talk too to the district attorney where this filming took place. the state may want to get involved.
     
  6. BillyMac

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    There also used to be a legal defense fund for Christains on a pro bono basis. That was years and years ago, but maybe it still exists. And then again maybe it wouldn't apply to this situation. It seems like it was linked to a Christian University somewhere in Virginia.

    Oh well, I just can't remember exactly but you can probably find out about it.
     
  7. TexasSky

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    Okay -

    I talked to one of our Pastors, and a Deacon who is a lawyer. They all recommend a firm sounding letter that demands a re-editing of the film to remove any images of my daughter, and points out that it is slander for her image to appear in a film she totally disagrees with after she specifically stated they did not have consent to use her image.

    We also talked to the local station that has a copy of the film. They said we're not the only parents to complain. They said we do have a law suit. They are going to pull it from their schedule, but unfortunately this trash won the Sun Film Festival. So our local stations aren't the only worry we have.
     
  8. mioque

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    TexasSky
    "She believes strongly that parading her body is wrong. I think she feels more strongly about it even than her Dad and I do."
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    I'm not surprised in the slightest. From personal experience I can attest that it is rather unsettling when you realize that every male over the age of 11 is 'checking you out' when you pass.

    Finally getting wrinkles is good. :D
     
  9. TexasSky

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    lol Mioque
     
  10. emeraldctyangel

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    I hope that this is resolved for you. If the producers of the film do not edit her out of the film and ensure every copy released is the edited version, make them pay heartily. Be specific, do not accept cash in lieu of not being edited. Make them edit it AND pay you for your trouble, which you can then turn over to a charitable group or one that fights this kind of nonsense or use however you see fit. Good luck.
     
  11. StefanM

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    Hit 'em where it hurts. Sue and demand editing.

    Producers like this need to learn that no means no, and the only way they'll get that message is to have a big fat hole knocked in their bank accounts.
     
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    I would sue them for every penny they have and then possibly prosecute them for stalking and harrassment.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  13. BillyMac

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    Here's a post that I cannot disagree with.

    (pssst...... it sure was quiet while you were gone) [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  14. Victory in Jesus

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    I, for one, hope you sue...and not just for the money, but for ALL THE RIGHTS TO THE VIDEO. Make that video YOURS so they have to turn it and all the copies over to you. But, this is what I see (just sitting at home watching tv and reading stuff on the internet):

    People like this know there is a possibility that others will sue them, but like the tabloids, they are banking on the fact that they have more money to hire a better lawyer than the victims do. They lie, and hope the victims won't lie in court. They create false documents and have people on their side saying, "I was there when they signed".

    They try to scare people into believing that they are throwing their money into a lawyer's briefcase only to lose a case...and whether they win or lose, THEY GET THEIR FREE PUBLICITY! (Not exactly free, but it will get a lot more viewership, so the case will "pay for itself").

    Sometimes it's like puching at leaves in the wind. But, I hope you sue for all you can get (including the rights of the video so they can't aire it again) and take these people down.
     
  15. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I would like to see her own the entire operation and then shut it down.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  16. TexasSky

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    To be honest, Joseph, I wish I could shut it down totally.

    The film basically mocks Christian values in regards to premarital sex, and in regards to homoesexuality.

    I believe the whole thing was a work of satan. The girl in the film was never a strong Christian. She grew up in one of the more liberal Methodist Churches. My daughter, and another good friend, discovered she wasn't attending any church and invited her to a Baptist Church in town. She attended a few months, then announced that we were too rigid for her. She started attending a non-denominational church in town.

    She had conservative values, but as far as any of us knew, she had never come to Christ.

    Well, in comes the New York producers. Both Lesbians, saying they want a "Southern Baptist Christian perspective." They do a lot of film at the girl's "new church," and present it as a Southern Baptist Church, but it isn't.

    They mock "True Love Waits."

    They imply that anyone who opposes them is "crooked," "hate filled," and "ignorant."

    What the film doesn't show is all the nonsense in the background.

    The producers tried to stage things to present the absolutely worst perspective. They actually handed kids scripts.

    Our city is dry. There are, outside of town, liqour stores we can't do anything about, but the city is dry. The film shows a bunch of liquor signs, then cuts to kids in a parking lot, implying kids are hanging out at liquor stores. The thing is, the kids are at the parking lot of a coffee shop in town.

    They cut out the dialogue of every Christian in the film except for the girl's minister, who, bless his heart, stands firm on the bible regarding sex education, but they manage to make him look like a whacko.

    They slander the head of the student city council, and accuse him of using inappropriate ways of winning election. The fact is, the boy was popular, the girl was not.

    They don't show how the girl's relationship with her own mother was almost destroyed. Its only a mother's love that keeps them speaking at all.

    The releases they tried to have people sign were dangerous and unbelievable. They asked for the rights to use any footage of the children on the film, "in any way" into "perptuosity." For all we know, this girl may end up in a porn film some day since her father agreed to that nonsense.

    So, yes, I want them shut down.
     
  17. Rachel

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    :mad: That's terrible! [​IMG] Most definitely satan's handiwork.
     
  18. Aaron

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    Sue them. Go for the jugular.
     

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