What Sin is Being Committed by Person Suffering from PTSD?

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  1. InTheLight

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    Taking you off ignore....

    What sin is being committed by someone suffering from post traumatic stress disorder?

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    What sin should the suffering person confess and forsake to free themselves of the effects of PTSD?

    (PTSD is a recognized mental illness.)
     
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    Dude, you guys shouldn't even bother. Listen most of us, probably the vast majority are not absolutists on this issue. Just let it go man, its not worth our time or the electrons.
     
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    Listen, Dude. If you don't like it, don't read these threads. Don't post in these threads. Don't assume to speak for the 'vast majority'. I just tuned in to these threads today. Don't tell me what is or isn't worth my time. Let it go.
     
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    Back to the ignore button?
     
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    My question was addressed to Freeatlast in the thread title. Apparently a mod altered the thread title.
     
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    If you had his name in the title, that is against the rules.
     
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    Every case is different. In the case of Andria Yates who finally murdered her 5 children by drowning them all it was claimed that she was effected because of religious fanaticism. She was seeing some religious nut that had fed her all kinds of demonic beliefs. So she would have to repent of her false religion.
    In other ceases it might be something else, like long ter unforgiveness, or long term anger, or many things, but all PTSD has a cause and the causes all have a bottom line in sin with the only cure being confession and forsaking.
     
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    I was thinking of soldiers returning from war. What sin are they harboring?
     
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    That was it. (Actually I used an acronym based on his screen name. And I didn't know it was against the rules.)
     
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    Post Traumatic Stress Disorder- Meaning someone had a trauma in their life let's say an abused wife suffering from the trauma of his abuse finally breaks from the abuse and burns him in a bed. What does she need to confess? Being abused by him all those years, that wasn't her abusing herself. Many women lack the resources and are in love with the man thinking he will change. I know she needs to confess being gullable and believing he would change. Yet Jesus said forgive 70 x 7 so the christian thing to do is to forgive him.
    Sorry that doesn't wash, she simply broke as anyone who is abused would eventually do and she suffers PTSD from it. Yes she should have left him but then there would be those who felt she was wrong for leaving her husband and getting a divorce.
     
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    While each case would have different sin the bottom line issue would be because of sin.
    Some war vets often grapple with guilt or despair over what they have seen and done which brings on depression. Guilt can lead us to despair and self-destruction. It often causes us to give up hope, lash out at others, and even kill ourselves if not dealt with biblically. Those in Christ have the peace of mind in knowing that as long as they are doing what the Lord would have them to do their actions are not condemning. The person who holds onto what they have seen and done because of a lack of faith instead of letting it go through confession and forsaking may very well suffer emotionally, but the issue is sin not what they saw and did.
    If you look into the bible here are some who suffered what would be classified as PTSD today.
    Peter and Judas both denied the Lord and both suffered guilt, despair and depression. One killed himself and one confessed and forsook and was healed. The issue is about faith because the cause is spiritual. Some Others in the bible are as follows;

    David Psalms 6, 13, 18, 23, 25, 27, 31, 32, 34, 37-40, 42-43, 46, 51, 55, 62-63, 69, 71, 73, 77, 84, 86, 90-91, 94-95, 103-104, 107, 110, 116, 118, 121, 123-124, 130, 138, 139, 141-143, 146-147)
    Cain

    So the question is how did they handles the depression (or today what is called PTSD)

    In the case of Cain he is in depression after his sin over his punishment and God responds;
    Then the LORD said to Cain, ‘Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.’”
    Genesis 4:6-7

    DAVID, King of Israel (having committed adultery was depressed until he confessed his sin)
    “When I kept silent, my bones grew old Through my groaning all the day long. For day and night Your hand was heavy upon me; My vitality was turned into the drought of summer. Selah.”
    -Psalm 32:3-4
    Release from depression caused by guilt came from confession and seeking God's forgiveness…
    “For I said in my haste, ‘I am cut off from before Your eyes’; Nevertheless You heard the voice of my supplications When I cried out to You. Oh, love the LORD, all you His saints! For the LORD preserves the faithful, And fully repays the proud person. Be of good courage, And He shall strengthen your heart, All you who hope in the LORD. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit. …I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I have not hidden. I said, ‘I will confess my transgressions to the LORD,’ And You forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah.”
    Psalm 31:22 - 32:2, 32:5 (NKJV)

    The answer is with God;
    “Why are you cast down, O my soul? And why are you disquieted within me? Hope in God, for I shall yet praise Him For the help of His countenance. …For You are the God of my strength…” (Psalm 42:5, 43:2—NKJV).
     
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    Instead of murder for retribution (the excuse is fear to cover the sin and escape punishment) She needs to confess and forsake her hate and get out of the relationship. She would not break/snap or how ever one might excuse the sin if she obeyed the Lord to forgive.
     
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    Many women finally get out of the abusive relationship, then they are riduculed by church members because thed husband weaves a great sob story and she is becomes a victim again. Many people who are tortured break mentally, many abused women break and suffer from PTSD. If she left the relationship and has forgiven himand foresaken her hate and gotten over the relationship, and she still suffers from PTSD, because of the years of trauma in her life what else do you think she can do. Because their are many women out there in this situation and they take the medication to keep the sub-consciuous from cpoming out in their dream cycle.
     
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    Freeatlast- It's not surprising, given your much repeated/evidenced hatred for the military, that you focus on guilt when asked about service-related PTSD.
     
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    All excuses. If she has set her heart on the Lord she will not murder, but rather confess and forsake while getitng out and confess her anger at church members and move her membership. Confession and forsaking is the only answer. Anything else is an excuse for more sin.
     
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    Confess and forsake that is how God has set it up and it is the only way to be healed. Drugs and excuses mask and confession and fosaking heal.
     
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    So you are saying that guilt, fear, anger, and despair are sins. Is that correct?

    Post traumatic stress disorder is NOT depression.
     
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    Did you read the article and watch the video?
     
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    No, I didn't. I wasn't asking the video a question, I was asking you.

    So you are saying that guilt, fear, anger, and despair are sins. Is that correct?
     
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    Wholly agreed. I had a bit of PTSD after the Flight 800 work I did. Nothing like being a civilian and seeing body parts, the seats with burned hair and clothing and broken plane parts bring brought in from the sea to give you nightmares. There was nothing to confess and forsake.
     
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