What were the Framers of the Constitution?

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What were the Framers of the Constitution?

  1. Forward thinking visionaries

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  2. Sought to learn from the past

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  3. Sought to maximize liberty

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  4. Sought to maximize order

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  5. Sought to preserve the power of upper classes

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  6. Sought to advance an egalitarian vision

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  7. Hypocrites

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  8. Did the best they could with what they had in order to form a Union

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  9. Primarily orthodox Christians

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  10. Primarily Deists

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  11. "An assembly of demi-gods" (Th. Jefferson statement)

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  12. Primarily sought to preserve states rights and powers

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  13. Primarily sought to consolidate power centrally

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  14. Primarily seeking to accomplish both of the latter two

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  15. Conservatives

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  16. Liberals

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  17. Revolutionaries

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  18. Idealists

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  19. Realists

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  20. Other - elaborate

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  1. fromtheright

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    I'm sure I left out some good options, but here goes...
     
  2. JGrubbs

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    If the framers were alive today they would be labeled extremist, radical right-wingers, terrorist, etc. Some are already getting these labels from modern government school "history" books.

    It's too bad we don't have more people today with the same passion and love for liberty that our founding fathers had!
     
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    Well I suppose there would be people on the other side of the Atlantic during their time who would have called them treasonists.

    I agree with JGrubbs. To read their papers is inspiring. Today, we see more excuses than passion.
     
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    I'd be more interested in their opinion of our politicians, JGrubbs.
     
  5. StraightAndNarrow

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    I don't understand how they could have been considered a revolutionary and a conservative at the same time. Conservatives try to preserve the past. Revolutionaries try to radically change the status quo many times by force. The conservatives in America at that time supported England and a lot of people did just that.
     
  6. fromtheright

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    We disagreed in another thread on the use of the word terrorist to describe the Founders but I agree with you on the other ones. And I definitely agree with your second para! I also wish that more people had a true understanding of the nature of that liberty and our own history.
     
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    SAN,

    I don't understand how they could have been considered a revolutionary and a conservative at the same time. Conservatives try to preserve the past. Revolutionaries try to radically change the status quo many times by force. The conservatives in America at that time supported England and a lot of people did just that.

    IMO, the line was crossed with the Declaration of Independence. Prior to that, many of the Founders were arguing in defense of their "rights as Englishmen" but with the Declaration, they were forced to argue in defense of their natural rights, a more revolutionary position. But they were still rather conservative in the sense that they still looked back to English history for examples for a wide range of rights and for the very form of government.
     

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