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What Wins a Debate?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by John of Japan, Nov 25, 2010.

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Does abrasiveness help in a debate?

  1. Yes, abrasiveness helps win a debate.

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  2. Abrasiveness neither helps nor harms your cause.

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  3. No, abrasiveness harms your position in a debate.

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  4. I don't know.

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  5. Other

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  1. Old Union Brother

    Old Union Brother New Member

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    Hey Luke sometimes during your "discussion" I'm glad you are in Mississippi and John is in Japan. If you weren't we would need boxing gloves and the Rules would be the Marquess of Queensberry Rules !!!!LOL:eek::rolleyes:
     
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  2. Luke2427

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    That's funny:smilewinkgrin::thumbs:

    Sometimes is gets heated on both sides. But heat is the result of friction which is what is produced when iron sharpens iron.

    BTW, we couldn't box- I am way above his weight class!:smilewinkgrin:
     
    #82 Luke2427, Nov 29, 2010
  3. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Well said. Some seem to believe that Christian character stops when you get in an Internet debate, and if someone is offended that's their tough luck. (I'm not thinking of anyone in particular.)
     
    #83 John of Japan, Nov 29, 2010
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    The Fallacy of "ad-hominem"


    This persons view of ad-hominem, may shine new light on the term and the reason ad-hominem should not be used on Christian forums.

    In my opinion, ad hominem is an excuse to rip into the other person, to put them on the defensive, and almost always causing them to resort to a lower form of ad-hominem, which makes their initial argument and post lost in the process of ugliness.

    Let's stop these underhanded debate techniques and get back to the Christian principles and standards this board was built around and for.

    SEE: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
     
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  5. Luke2427

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    That website is EXACTLY what ad hominem is. And I oppose it vehemently as it is the enemy of what I do this for- getting down to the nitty gritty truth of a matter.

    Saying an argument is bologna and proving it is not ad hominem.

    Saying a person lacks Christian character- that is ad hominem.
     
    #85 Luke2427, Nov 29, 2010
  6. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Naw, Luke and I would go with MMA rules. He likes old man Randy Couture, but I'll bet I could show him a few moves Couture doesn't know. [​IMG]
     
    #86 John of Japan, Nov 29, 2010
  7. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    You sure? I'm 205 (but some of that is in that bubble in my middle).
     
    #87 John of Japan, Nov 29, 2010
  8. Salty

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    Lets have a debate now:

    At which page should this thread be closed?
     
    #88 Salty, Nov 29, 2010
  9. Luke2427

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    That's right- Randy is my favorite! I really like that emoticon, BTW! Where did you get it?
     
    #89 Luke2427, Nov 29, 2010
  10. Luke2427

    Luke2427 Active Member

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    Yea, I've got you by more than a hundred pounds. I'm a pretty big dude. Been lifting heavy since I was thirteen.
     
    #90 Luke2427, Nov 29, 2010
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    Lifting the fork to your mouth eh? :laugh:


    Couldn't resist. :saint:
    You walked right into that one.
     
    #91 Amy.G, Nov 29, 2010
  12. Luke2427

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    Plenty of that too, Sis! Especially this time of year!:thumbs:
     
    #92 Luke2427, Nov 30, 2010
  13. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Here's the link: http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Fighting-Smileys/

    Randy is cool but I'm a fan of Gracie-Killer Sakuraba. Made Royce look silly!
     
    #93 John of Japan, Nov 30, 2010
  14. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Do you do any martial arts?
     
    #94 John of Japan, Nov 30, 2010
  15. Luke2427

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    Yea a little- a very little Judo and a few "private" lessons in Jiu Jitsu.

    But mainly I came up fighting in the school yard and in my neighborhood and wrestling my buds practicing the things we observed on UFC.

    Let me tell you, Brother John, you stand a lot better chance whipping me in this debate than whipping me in a fight- and I don't think you really stand a very good chance in the former.
     
    #95 Luke2427, Nov 30, 2010
  16. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Lesnar went down. The bigger they are.... :tongue3:

    I started with catch-as-catch-can wrestling (the foundation of Japanese MMA through Karl Gotch) in 1966, went into various Asian arts for the next 40 years. Let's meet in Hawaii for the big fight--on the beach--with parasols.
     
    #96 John of Japan, Nov 30, 2010
  17. Luke2427

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    ...the harder they hit.
     
    #97 Luke2427, Nov 30, 2010
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    Better be careful of your old knees.
     
    #98 Rippon, Nov 30, 2010
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    I want to come!!! Rippon, you should come too, we'll make it a party. :smilewinkgrin:
     
    #99 Benjamin, Dec 1, 2010
  20. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Ooh, hey, don't tell Luke my weaknesses! :eek:
     
    #100 John of Japan, Dec 1, 2010
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