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What Would Happen if Women Left the Workplace?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by AVBunyan, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. AVBunyan

    AVBunyan New Member

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    My wife and I were discussing this the other day so I thought I’d put some thoughts down to bring about some reassessing of where we are as Christians who are not to be conformed to this world.

    But what would be the possible results if women decided to give up their careers and jobs and go home?

    Now before you go blow a gasket let’s clear the air here up front. I understand that due to emergencies or a true necessity a woman may have to pitch in to help support the household or herself due to several factors:
    1. The husband passes away.
    2. The husband is injured.
    3. The woman is single away from home (for whatever reason) and not involved in the full-time church ministry.
    4. The woman is married but has no children and may work under her husband’s authority at his business or similar.

    But what I’m aiming at are those CHRISTIAN women that have children and who really do not have to work. I can’t expect lost women to think this way but this still could apply to them as well.

    Also, I’m not aiming primarily at the women here for if she is married then the head of the household has a responsibility here. Some men are turning over what God called them to be and do to their wives thus putting undue pressures on them that were never intended. Shame on men who do this!

    Now, after trying to defuse some of the objections up front let’s get on with the show!

    If the women were to leave the work place let’s look at some possible results:

    1. There would be probably be no unemployment problem.
    2. Women would not be under the authority of another man.
    3. Women would not be usurping the authority over the man.
    4. The children would have a mother to come home to.
    5. The women might even start taking responsibility in the raising of their children instead of turning them over to the state 8 hours a day.
    6. Some women would not be tempting men with their alluring work attire.
    7. Women would not seek to be doing physically what a man should be doing.
    8. Women would not be under the undue pressure that God never intended for them to take.
    9. There would be less confusion in the home regarding money.
    10. The divorce rate might go down due to there would not be as many opportunities for temptation on both sides.
    11. Women might have more time to serve their church.
    12. Women might have more time to pray and keep the home,
    13. The home would become more organized.
    14. There would not be as much traffic on the roads.
    15. Money would be saved on daycares, cars, wardrobes, etc.
    16. Families would be able to slow down and spend more quality time together.
    17. Health problems may go down due to the women being more relaxed and doing more of the great things God has called women to do.
    18, Health would approve for then the women would have time to prepare more healthy meals from-scratch.
    19. Money would be saved by not eating out since the women would have more time.

    I’m sure there are some more that I’ve missed but I don’t have a lot of time.

    Now here are some of the objections that are sure to come up:

    1. We can’t afford our house payment or the house we want to live in!
    Solution – get a smaller house or fix up the old one.

    2. We can’t afford our 2 new SUV payments!
    Solution – get rid of them and be more practical.
    3. We won’t be able to buy a pool!
    Solution – don’t buy one.

    4. We have to pay for cable TV, Satellite, Broadband, etc.!
    Solution – cut back.

    5. We can’t drink cokes and expensive fruit juices at all our meals!!!
    Solution – drink more water – it is cheaper and healthier.

    6. We won’t be able to dress in the latest styles!
    Solution – start making some of your children’s clothes or just be more practical.

    7. We won’t be able to afford a vacation in the mountains!
    Solution – go to the local zoo!

    8. We won’t be able to give as much!
    Give me a break! This might be the case in a small minority. If this is the case then I bet God will bless you anyway by you seeking to get your home more in line with his word.

    9. What will the wife do all day?
    Solution – maybe she could raise the little children, teach the little children, train the little children, keep the home, do charitable works in the neighborhood, pray more, read the Bible more, send out letters of encouragement, stay away from spas, malls, movie theaters, etc. There is plenty to do for a Christian lady involved with a family and a local church.

    10. “But I won’t have any of my own money!”
    Solution – trust your husband for a change.

    11. “But my husband can’t provide for us!”
    Solution – see the above 10 solutions and then trust God for a change.

    12. “We are already in debt – what shall we do?”
    Solution – see the above 11 – sell everything you have and quite working! If we give you the option of working till the debt is paid off then you will get in debt again and continue working.

    Now I’m sure you can come up with more reason why you feel you just have to have a career, earn money, etc. But a family must differentiate between a need and a want. God said:

    Phil 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

    God never promised to provide a want and we as Christian families spend a lot of time and money on “wants”! And these “wants” are dragging us away from God and towards the world!

    Well there is my thought for the day. Wasn’t that fun?

    Am I against women? Give me a break - I’m married to a faithful Christian woman who has the above convictions – she even helped me on this especially the solution to number 12.

    God has given women a high calling and men and women have neglected that and even lowered that calling by letting women get involved in the workplace to the extent that they are. Both are to blame – the man for allowing or pushing the women and the women for desiring and choosing this when it is not needed,

    God has seen fit to provide for us as we seek to raise 10 children away from public school. Are we perfect? Of course not? Do I trust God like I should? Of course I don’t. Is the above hard? Yes, we struggle in some of the above also. But my wife has always stayed home and she had this conviction before we got married and she is not alone in this conviction.

    Yes, I understand Pro. 31. But read it real close before you seek to use it to justify the modern working woman of today!

    I leave you with 3 verses for our edification:

    Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
    Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

    And finally one for the man:

    Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

    Well, I trust you will consider and ponder and have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!

    May God bless!
     
  2. James_Newman

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    Amen AVBunyan, the world is turned upside down in these last days.
     
  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    *c4k quietly agrees with the principle of the OP*


    ...but don't tell anybody ;)
     
  4. dianetavegia

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    Great Post! I agree.
     
  5. NateT

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    I agree.

    The one that I think of the most is:
    My wife has never worked outside the home (she does more than work inside the home.) Even before we had kids she didn't want to work outside, and there was no need to.

    My mom has more stress at work than she ever did with us at home.
     
  6. Charles Meadows

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    I can remember as a boy alwats coming home from school to find my mom at the door - not a key under the mat, not a babysitter... ah yes...

    Now don't get me wrong - I think that women can do (almost) any job as well as men. But our main job is raising children in a Godly home. With 2 working parents the homelife, in terms of attention AND supervision, in compromised.

    There's nothing intrinsically wrong with a woman working - but all of us, men and women, should put our kids' upbringing before careers, money etc.
     
  7. Marcia

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    Have any of you ever lived as a family of 3 on $4.10 an hour? That's what my husband was making when my son was born. We lived in a one-bedroom apt. and had no car (until my son was 8 mos. old when my father gave us some money to buy a used car). I stayed home with my son as I believed in it, though I was not a Christian (I was practicing astrology, preparing for the exam to be licensed). Eventually, though I had to get a part-time job, which I did not want to do. Later, I was able to work at home with astrology while I was still married.

    My marriage ended before I became a believer (he left) and I had to support my son. I then became a believer but had to continue to work as who else was there to support us?

    Let's keep in mind the circumstances some people find themselves in. Ideally, yes, a woman should be at home with children (even until they are teens, I believe) but I've known too many people who could not pay rent, buy food, and have a car on one salary.
     
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    "*c4k quietly agrees with the principle of the OP*"
     
  9. James_Newman

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    So you had trouble making ends meet while you observed times for a living?
     
  10. AVBunyan

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    Thanks for the responses folks - you see, I can talk about more issues than just the King James Bible issue!

    And yes, I understand there are more circumstances when a woman may have to enter the workplace than what I mentioned - I wrote this off the top of my head and is not conclusive. But I trust you see what I was trying to say.

    God bless
     
  11. Gina B

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    Agreed, with the exceptions you noted such as circumstances beyond one's control. (single moms, husband unable to work, etc)

    But, there's really no solution. We can't turn back time or stop what's already in place. We can whine and preach about it, but women staying home to solely take care of the home and family with men bearing the responsibility to provide isn't all that acceptable anymore, and there's no way of going back to how things were.
    Or is there? What exactly should we do about this problem AVBunyan? We can talk about it all we want, but do you really think society will start going "backwards" because a small section of Christianity thinks it's a good idea?
    Gina
     
  12. James_Newman

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    The promises in the bible still apply to us today. God says if we seek the kingdom and His righteousness, we need not take thought for what we shall eat or what we shall wear. If a family follows their conviction that the woman should be a keeper at home, I have seen the Lord bless it over and over again. Many of the couples I know who have both been working are/were having serious marital problems, including myself.
     
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    Most Americans have a warped view of what constitutes a "need" and a "desire".

    I agree with the lead post in most respects. My wife has stayed home since she was about 4 months pregnant with our first child.

    Point #1 might be more of a problem than you imagine. We don't have an unemployment problem and haven't really since the Great Depression. The worst since then was the Carter years I think and then it was still under 10%.

    The problem would be a labor shortage causing both wages and prices to go up... but prices probably much more sharply. This would erode the real wealth of the country until technology or population caught up with the labor shortage.

    I think it would be worthwhile but it would not be without costs.

    I am not sure who ever got the idea that women at home rearing their children weren't doing the most important job in a society or an economy.

    Remarkably... or maybe not... the people paid to keep many children at day care make less than half those that fix our cars. I am not advocating day care but rather pointing out how little priority our society puts on the training of children.
     
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  15. Marcia

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    No, we had trouble making ends meet because I was staying home with my son. When I started practicing astrology, that allowed me to stay home. I wanted to stay home and be there when my son got home from school.

    After I was a believer (and divorced), I was the sole support and had to work. So ironincally, I was able to stay home more before I was a believer and had to work after I was a believer.
     
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    How true. Many parents talk about how they will need to have X number of dollars to put their child through college. I see parents doing exactly that while their children are playing and not studying. So often the best students are not from the U.S. Take a look at where the bulk of the graduate students are from.

    Parents need to forget the need and teach what is best.
     
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    I know, my brother is a car mechanic. He makes almost twice what a starting teacher makes.
     
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    In biblical context this is for church.

    With what my husband makes being kind of average here I see no way a family with children could live on it without goverment help. And my son makes even less and they are expecting. So it depends on whether or not you want to eat. We barely make it on what my husband makes and if I had young children we were responsable for we would not be able to feed them or go to the doctor. I remember those days and if I had it all to do over I'd have gone to work. My kids would never have gone without food.

    With milk being over $3. a gallon and gas around $2. a gallon, and food prices going up every month, my utilies go up at least twice a year, I'm not sure how anyone is able to even choose to stay home. My husband only makes $8.15, and there are plenty of jobs here paying a lot less. Rent, basic utilities, food, clothes, car maintance and insurance, costs a lot more then that $8.15 if there are children, and thats not including health insurance or doctor and meds bills, glasses or a dentist.
    I can remember getting 1 pair of shoes a year, and that only when the previous pair wore out.
    My kids were taunted terriably(and we knew nothing about it until after they grew up) at school and even sunday school becasue they were poor and wore used clothes(they were usually free and half worn out themselves) and worn out looking shoes. They were so miserable and all they wanted was decent clothes(they didn't even have to be new, just better looking used, which cost more) and new shoes. Is that too much for a kid to ask.
     
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    I think it is more important to have someone home when teens are involved. LOL
     
  20. Karen

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    Partly, but in some scenarios, unemployment would go up because of lowered demand for many goods and services and sinking prices.

    Karen
     
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