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What's an UNfundamental baptist?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Gina B, Jul 24, 2003.

  1. Gina B

    Gina B Active Member

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    Perhaps the thread should be moved. To be honest, I never read the posting rules on this thread and the question I asked is best answered by both parties. I don't expect fundamentalists to have the best answers on unfundamentalists or vice versa. :eek:
    I apologise for starting it in here, that was my fault for not thinking! Perhaps it can be moved to General Discussions. [​IMG]
    Gina
     
  2. Dr. Bob

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    Guess this thread has become an object lesson describing a typical controversy between Fundamental Baptists and "Other" Baptists.

    How the IFB emphasizes the Bible and literal interpretation of such issues as the Blessed Hope.

    Others have the right to wear the "Baptist" moniker, but not the wonderful adjectives of INDEPENDENT or FUNDAMENTAL! :rolleyes:
     
  3. C.S. Murphy

    C.S. Murphy New Member

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    Brother Jim, this doctrine is neither unbiblical nor mythical but rather is clearly proclaimed in teh word of God. If you feel led to doubt this please don't do it here.
    Murph

    Jim above is what I said regarding your post, I never said you cannot post on this board and I have not sought to have you suspended. I feel that calling this view which is clearly revealed in scripture unbiblical and mythical is not showing grace to others. If you cannot post here without taking potshots at fundamentals or funnymentals as you like calling us then why post here at all. Murph
     
  4. blackbird

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    Here's what I do at any church I pastor--I present the scripture in its truest sense--expository style--squarin' up as close as I possibly can to be true with scripture.

    I do not try to explain all of the "views" of the millenial--pre, post and ahhhhhhh! Rather, I believe with all my heart that the word of God holds true to the Premillenial rapture(rupture for some) and resurrection of the church--the next item on God's agenda for the church is its rapture and resurrection. I do not bother tryin' to teach any other concept--since the Lord Jesus Christ is the master teacher of the Premillenial viewpoint.

    Blackbird
     
  5. Pastor Larry

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    Being a fundamentalist, I have not seen many churches that have this. However, the reason for it is very simple. It is the same reason why Bibliology comes first in systematic theology. Apart from a proper doctrine of bibliology, there is no way to know anything about God and Christ.

    A non-literal view is what has given rise to all kinds of false teachings and ridiculous notions. The hermeneutic is basic to everything that derives from it. Since the Bible is our only source of propositional knowledge about God, it is vital to have first a statement of that hermeneutic that tells how we arrived at what we believe about God and Christ.

    As I say, this is typical systematic theology, in which the order of the doctrines flows logically.
     
  6. Terry_Herrington

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    Jim,
    The rules are simple. Agree with Murphy or don't post. :rolleyes:
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    Here.
    In this forum.
    With these moderators.
    Or these fundamentalists.
    You have the rest of the board.
    And we know we are right!
    [​IMG]
     
  8. dianetavegia

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    Jim, I saw nothing rude in Murph's response to you. Firm, but not rude! I've read and re-read it for two days.

    Of course we will react strongly when something we firmly believe is called mythical or unbiblical when we see it as an absolute! [​IMG]

    Why don't you go to the thread Gina started and begin a debate or discussion where people can use scripture to 'prove' their stances? :confused:

    Have a great day Jim and all!
    Diane
     
  9. Terry_Herrington

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    So, SheEagle, only the moderators have the right to decide what the fundamentals of the faith are? This is just about the response I expected. Not much different from many IFB churches.

    The rules are:

    1. The moderators are always right

    2. If the moderators are wrong, refer to rule one.
     
  10. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    Sounds clear to me!

    Diane
     
  11. John Wells

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    Terry,

    What right do people think they have ignoring the rules, complaining about them, and wanting to change them?

    What is so difficult about: These are the rules (clearly stated at the top of the forum). If you don't like them, play in another sandbox! [​IMG]
     
  12. timothy 1769

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    i don't see why it's ok for people to debate (and, imo basically deny) straightforward scriptural commands in this forum, but it's not ok for jim to debate prophecy (which, imo is much harder to correctly understand and ultimately much less important to our day to day lives).

    granted, his post was a little pointed, but no more so than many of the other posts here.

    bottom line: whenever there's a debate in the fundamental forum it's almost guaranteed jim and i will be on opposite sides, but even so i don't think jim has been treated fairly.
     
  13. Gina B

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    Does anyone have an answer to what the thread's actually about, or is it just so much more interesting to jump Murphy and Jim instead of letting things tone down on their own?
    Gina
     
  14. C.S. Murphy

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    I agree Gina, sadly the meaning of the thread has been abandoned. I hate to close it since I am learning so much about what an idiot I am but I feel it best to close this thread. Anyone who would like to criticize me any further please feel free to PM. I need all the help I can get.
    Thanks for all the kind words that have been expressed, I will admit that I have not won any popularity contests but that was not what the Webmaster put me here for. My goal has been to preserve this forum as a place where you could expect the literal reading of scripture to be respected. Without doubt some rights and freedoms have been trampled on but the alternative is available in almost every other thread on this board and I personally feel it very important to preserve it. As always please feel free to complain to the Webmaster about my work here, I just hope he doesn't cut my pay.
    Murph
     
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