What's the problem with SBC, GARBC, and RBC?

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  1. abcgrad94

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    Recently I checked out an IFB site for ladies and I was disappointed (although not really surprised) to find that I'm not allowed to join the forum because I attend a church that is part of the GARBC fellowship. This online group refuses membership to anyone that is SBC, RBC, or GARBC, or any other church that lets in anyone who isn't in complete agreement with "their" IFB "convictions."

    This thread isn't to debate pants and KJVO, I just want to know what exactly is the problem? My church doesn't have women pastors, we're KJV preferred, and we adhere to the same Baptist doctrines as IFB. I know of SBC churches that are the same. So why are GARBC, SBC, and RBC, not considered holy enough even though we may be independent and fundamental in belief?
     
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    IFB churches tend to preach that the SBC is the scourge of the earth and extremely liberal. Of course many of them are remembering times form the past before the conservative resurgence and have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
     
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    Because they are so closed minded. Actually your church is not a member of the GARB, and my church is not a member of the SBC as our churches are associated with those groups. Even "IFB" are not that independent- if there is any kind of fellowship. Even that forum could be an example.

    Most people think a denomination is a hierarchy. That is one part of the definition. The other definition is those who have similar beliefs.

    Its a shame
     
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    What is an RBC?
     
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    What is GARBC?
     
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    General Association of Regular Baptist Churches. It's men and churches separated from the Northern Baptist Convention over the Modernism flooding the Convention's seminaries and its mission boards, back in the '20s. Its members are considered part of IFBdom, but the org over the years gained a reputation for being a tad too denominational for some tastes.
     
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    GARBC stands for General Association of Regular Baptist Churches. RBC stands for Regular Baptist Church.

    Our churches ares independent, we are not run by an association. We support missionaries just like the IFB churches do. It's more like a general fellowship and you choose how involved you want to be. For example, the GARB churches in our area rented a camp for all of our kids to attend this summer. We are friendly for fellowship purposes. Salty might be able to explain it better than I can.

    Anyway, I am not aware of any doctrinal differences as I was raised IFB and all the doctrines are the same. The only difference I can find is that we are are not KJVO to the point of calling any other version a PERVERSION. Also, some GARB churches have praise and worship, others like ours, are traditional.
     
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    Thanks for the response.
     
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    Thank you ninety four
     
  11. Salty

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    And exactaly the same thing can be said of the SBC. We are NOT run by local or State associations.

    BTW, GARBC and Regular Baptist are two totally seperate groups
     
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    I am not going to deal with SBC polity. Just remember one of the reasons the Triennial Convention was split in the 1830s was the Northerners for the most part took the position that a Baptist church could not be represented in any body outside itsself. Until 1901 with the formation of the NBC, Northern Baptists organized their inter-church activities along functional lines by interested individuals solely representing themselves not their home church.

    As for the other, yes. But, the word Regular was used by Northern Baptists to describe themselves as far back as 1881.
     
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    Thanks. I did not know this.

    So why would IFB not want to associate with GARB? Is there something in the history there?
     
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    The GARBC is a subset of IFBdom. However, in years gone by some of they folk took the attitude "we got out of Dodge before y'all did." This as the CBA didn't organize and separate from the NBC until 1947. Also, the GARBC had its approved colleges and mission boards.
     
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    ABC, I believe that website is run by the wife of the pastor who runs the militarygetsaved Independent Baptist directory.

    As can be seen in the glossary of abbreviations he uses to classify/denigrate churches, the great bugaboos are being "not KJV Only" or "not under a local church":

    http://militarygetsaved.tripod.com/acro.html

    He also uses state Regular Baptist association abbreviations OARBC, PARBC, CARBC, etc. This may account for the 'RBC' designation used in his wife's forum's rules.
     
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    It shows he does know a thing about the FBF's history. The group is organized in the classic Historic Northern Baptist manner. It is an organization of like minded individuals not of churches. It adheres to the Wayland's dictum "No Baptist church can be represented".

    "No local church over this organization", sounds like he wants a particular local church to run a fellowship or association. To my mind, that would put a church of which I'm not a member over me. I for one am not a supporter episcopalian polity.
     
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    I'm not a fan of those "us four and no more" groups. Thankfully the Lord is more inclusive than them. "Keeping yourself unspotted from the world" does not mean building a wall around your (intellectual or physical) property.
     
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    So, the only real beef is that not all SBC or GARB churches are KJVO. In my case, being KJV preferred still won't suffice--it must be KJVO for my whole entire church. It seems that Christ's criteria for getting into heaven is less strict than certain websites' rules for joining a forum. That is really, really sad.

    One would think for Christians not to associate, it would be because of something apostate like abortion or [email protected], not slacks or KJVP vs. KJVO.
     
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    Just read through his listing and boy is he inconsistent.
     
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    Wonder IF they know that Jesus did command us to love one another, and that ALL Christians are part of the Same Body though, and to strive to keep the unity?
     

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