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    A few monthes ago, (before the child was born) he would have told the mother that its perfectly ok to kill the infant, because her "choice" is the most important thing to protect.
     
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    Wow, that baby is adorable.

    Choice, blah. People need to stop being so selfish and realize the baby inside them is a real human and deserves a chance.
     
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    Here's what the Declaration of Independence says about abortion:

    "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect for the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
     
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    If only that was true...
     
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    It is true, but nobody beleives it anymore. And many of those who do believe it are too busy bowing down to the TV god to do anything about it. That and there too afraid of what might happen if they were to really truly fight abortion.
     
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    True. Very true. Some people are just afraid of the unknown. Some people are so wrapped up in what other people believe. So many people are scared to go fight for something they believe in, afraid they'll be hated.
     
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    True. Very true. Some people are just afraid of the unknown. Some people are so wrapped up in what other people believe. So many people are scared to go fight for something they believe in, afraid they'll be hated. </font>[/QUOTE]When the world hates a Christian, I just consider the source of the hate. When you realize that the hatred the world spews at Christians is based in total deception and ignorance, it makes it easier to say "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" You can't help but have pity on them because little do they know that after there lives are over here on earth they'll end up in hell because they refused to turn to Christ. They will have lived thier entire lives in vain.
     
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    I am looking at the picture of the baby and wondering what liberal democrat kidnapped my son and sent him to be tortured by Edwards.

    Poor kid. Such a cute kid, (almost as good looking as my kid), and he has liberals for parents. He doesn't even stand a chance in life.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    It's sad indeed. If his parents are diehard liberals, the kid would be better off raised by wolves or laughing hiyeenas or maybe even a kangaroo mom with a pouch.

    The ironic thing about liberals and democrats is that most of them believe in darwinian evolution which entails "survival of the fittest" and its mostly democrats that have abortions. Since you'd think democrats would breed more democrats, why would they promote murdering their own offspring? By there own democratic-monkey-man logic (pun intended) they've "chosen" (pun intended) to keep replicating the flaw of self destruction in the minds of those democrats that do end up surviving past birth.
     
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    As democrat as I am, I am totally against abortion. Weird, huh?
     
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    Indeed, May I ask what it is about yourself that makes you a democrat?
     
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    Funny thing is, the ones screaming for abortion, they are already born, go figure. :rolleyes:
     
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    The most unsafe place for a child in america to be is in the womb.Women (not all)say it's thier body therefore thier right to do as they please.
    I think they should do what they want with THIER body but they have not the right to commit murder on the body they helped to create inside of them. They had plenty of time to exercise free choice before the conception of the child.Dr. prescribed birth control or the old asprin between the knees trick, or just say no all effective. Our rights stop when we infinge on other peoples rights. The unborn child is a person.
     
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    P.S. don't forget to vote 24 million unregistered evangelical christians need to vote.
     
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    As a tangent, I think the phrase 'the pursuit of happiness' is one of the most unhelpful and silly statements ever made. It is that selfish pursuit that has led people into the kind of immorality that sees abortion as their 'right' to preserve/ 'pursue' said 'happiness'

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
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    I still haven't ever seen in scripture where God gives to all men the right to the pursuit of happiness.

    This concept came from the mind of a Deist, not from the Bible.
     
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    I have..

    1 Chronicles 4:10 Jabez cried out to the God of Israel, "Oh, that you would bless me and enlarge my territory! Let your hand be with me, and keep me from harm so that I will be free from pain." And God granted his request.

    Psalm 68:3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice.

    Proverbs 15:13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.

    Ecc. 5:19 Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.

    Ecc. 11:9 Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.

    Romans 14:7 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit

    Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith

    1 Thess 5:16 Be joyful always
     
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    So you really think that joy=happiness?

    And where do you see this as a right bestowed on all people? Joy only comes through a right relationship with God.
     
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    I saw that coming a mile away.. The word "happy" is such a general word that when a person uses it, it can mean any number of things. If you want to force strict definitions on the words I suppose you could differentiate the two. I equate joy and peace to both be the result of a relationship with God. They both come from the same source and they are so similar that they probably blend into one another. As Christians, its rather obvious to us that only true happiness, joy, peace, (whatever you want to call it) comes from knowing Christ. A life without Christ is in vain whether the person knows it or not.

    As far as the right of men pursuing "happiness" as stated in the declaration of independence, I think you are forcing a strict definition on the word when in fact what the writer meant was more along the lines of the right to generally pursue a meaningful and good life. If you're going to argue that this isn't a God given right, you're not far from saying that certain people DO NOT have the right to pursue a good and meaningful life, and therefore they shouldn't try.

    Matthew 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
     
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    Jefferson had in mind a Leibnizian conception of "happiness."

    Or, as Emmerich de Vattel put it:

    "Experience shows that a people may be unhappy in the midst of all earthly enjoyments, and in the possession of the greatest riches. Whatever may enable mankind to enjoy a true and solid felicity, is a second object that deserves the most serious attention of the government. Happiness is the point where center all those duties which individuals and nations owe to themselves; and this is the great end of the law of nature. The desire of happiness is the powerful spring that puts man in motion: felicity is the end they all have in view, and it ought to be the grand object of the public will. It is then the duty of those who form this public will, or of those who represent it — the rulers of the nation — to labour for the happiness of the people, to watch continually over it, and to promote it to the utmost of their power."
     

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