What's your intention?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gina B, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. Gina B

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    Two happenings recently caught my intention.
    One was the arrest of a father for using brass knuckles. (on an adult male who came to his home near midnight attempting to see the father's underage daughter after alleged obscene texts)
    Another was a person being charged for having a billy club, which looked to me like a stick with tape on it.

    In the first, I thought "is it really illegal to have brass knuckles?"

    I looked up the law, and found it really is, and in multiple countries. I did not know this, and it disturbed me, because it (sounds like it could be) a comforting item for a girl to have when walking alone after work in the evening, especially considering that a gun isn't the best choice for self defense when you're walking in a city.

    Then I looked up billy clubs, and found the law. I was shocked to find that ANYTHING can really pass for a billy, even a stick, and that even a knife is illegal, no matter the size. The illegal part comes in the intent. That is where this can get really sticky, because who gets to judge intent? This leaves the law wide open to it becoming a matter of judging the thoughts of a person and how much one trusts law enforcement with the ability to judge the intent of a person and to never use their power to judge intent in a corrupt manner.

    http://definitions.uslegal.com/b/billy-club/

    So, basically, you can't even carry a stick without possibly being accused of violating the law.

    Good luck defending yourself against...anything. I suppose you could yell. Just be careful what you yell. It could be considered bullying. *sigh*
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    I have a carry concealed license and carry a 45.
     
  3. exscentric

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    Humm, my walking stick has no sword inside so is legal, though it is a stick, hard and has a brass duck head on top - probably could be a weapon under their vagary.
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    Springfield Armory Stainless 1911
    Don't leave home without it.
     
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    I have zero intention of using it. Up here, it just seems like the thing to do. And for a town our size, we have very little crime.
     
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    Is it true that you can get sued if a robber gets chewed up by your dog when he breaks in ?
     
  7. PamelaK

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    I have a concealed weapons permit and carry. I have no intention of using my weapon unless I perceive a reasonable threat of death or sustaining great bodily injury.
     
  8. Salty

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    as WAS Newtown, CT

    Depends on State/Commonwealth law
     
  9. Revmitchell

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    I used to own one. I actually like the feel better than the Taurus I currently own. But it was a gift.
     
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    Connecticut has some pretty draconian gun laws on the books. That kid broke a lot of them, that day.
     
  11. Archie the Preacher

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    Progressive legislation

    Gina, you have discovered the counter productive nature of 'weapon laws'. In general, the people - and laws - which seek to cure a human behavior problem by blaming an inanimate object are doomed to failure. One notes the Biblical commandments (both Old and New Testament) are all focused on human actions, not 'evil objects'.

    Laws prohibiting 'offensive items' vary by state and locality. I live in Nebraska, the laws here - other than Omaha - are remarkable directed at illegal actions more than 'things'. Places like New York State and specifically New York City are determined to make life safer for the law breaker than for the law-abiding. (In fairness, NY is not the only place which does this; nearly all the 'progressive' areas follow suit.)

    Were I you - defenseless - I would look into the laws regarding self-defense and equip myself in accordance with those laws. Which may require some training and practice, by the way. (I carry a sidearm; a sidearm or other defense device is NOT a magic talisman to avert evil. Nor is keeping a Bible in your pocket.)

    Your other option is to change your residence to a jurisdiction more suitable to self-defense. I am aware there are reasons not to move; you'll have to weigh the factors and decide for yourself.
     
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    Laws do not stop criminals -
    thus the need for a law abider to protect himself.
     
  13. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Referencing the OP, a knife with a blade of 3" or less is not illegal in any of the 50 states, DC or the territories, providing it folds away manually (no "switchblade" aspect to it) so the statement that any knife is illegal regardless of length is incorrect.
     

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