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When did God stop speaking?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Salamander, Oct 24, 2008.

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  1. Salamander

    Salamander New Member

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    And just who is able to stop God from speaking?

    If the Bible we hold in our hands today isn't inspired by God's speaking to His children, thewn when did God bow to anyone to stop Him from doing what I already know He's DOING!

    I know this is a detraction from another thread, but I'm looking for "snakes"!:laugh:
     
    #1 Salamander, Oct 24, 2008
  2. franklinmonroe

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    No one. God speaks today. However, God chose to end His written revelation after His apostle penned the final word of The Apocalypse of John. Amen.
     
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  3. Salamander

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    And is that written Revelation inspired in every tongue known to man? ( if they have a Bible)
     
    #3 Salamander, Oct 24, 2008
  4. Reformer

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    Well, I wasn't in on the other thread so a little clarity might help.

    But I will say Scripture was completed when John lifted his hand from the last word in Revelation. Dose God still speak to us on a personal level, sure but I don't go write it down in my Bible as the Word. And I definitely don't change words at my *persuasion.*
     
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  5. Dr. Bob

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    Sal holds to a non-cessationist view of inspiration/revelation. God either spoke in His inspired word (that then may/may not be translated into language groups around the world) and then He stopped His supernatural revelation/inspiration in AD90 - this is the historic Baptist position - or He continues to inspire, reveal, breath, speak today -this is the historic pentecostal position.

    I cannot imagine a Baptist church holding pentecostal subjective "Gods speaking to me in new revelation" today. But evidently some claim to be Baptisticostal I guess. :(
     
    #5 Dr. Bob, Oct 24, 2008
  6. Askjo

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    The Bible is the God-speaking. Who will stop the God-speaking from that Book?
     
    #6 Askjo, Oct 25, 2008
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    That's why we keep having new Bible versions...God is still speaking, but He's repeating His same revelations in modern language.
     
    #7 robycop3, Oct 26, 2008
  8. Mexdeaf

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    Amen! God spoke to me today through the ESV!
     
    #8 Mexdeaf, Oct 26, 2008
  9. LeBuick

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    I understand your other post now. I apologize for going way off target.

    What about Pentecostals calling themselves Apostle's or Prophet's?
     
    #9 LeBuick, Oct 26, 2008
  10. Ed Edwards

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    Heb 1:1 (Geneva BIble, 1599 Edition):
    At sundry times and in diuers maners God spake in the olde time to our fathers by the Prophetes: in these last dayes hee hath spoken vnto vs by his Sonne,

    God said all we need to know when He Send His Son Jesus.

    Here is all one needs to know about God: :jesus:
     
    #10 Ed Edwards, Oct 26, 2008
  11. dh1948

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    Seems I recall reading an excellent chapter in John McArthur's booK, "Charismatic Confusion." I think the chapter title was, "Is the Bible Still Being Written."

    It has been years since I read it, so I don't recall all the details, but I do recall his premise: If God is still speaking to people today in new revelations, then the Bible is still being written.
     
    #11 dh1948, Oct 26, 2008
  12. Ed Edwards

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    Yes. Here is a part of ALL SCRIPTURE:

    2Pe 1:20-21 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
    So that yee first knowe this, that no prophecie of the Scripture is of any priuate interpretation.
    21 For the prophecie came not in olde time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moued by the holy Ghost.

    Scripture has prophecies that are not 'of private interpretation'.
    If God gives a modern prophecy that is 'of private interpretation'
    Then it isn't Scripture. But it could still be a prophecy.

    What I think about THE BIBLE:
     
    #12 Ed Edwards, Oct 26, 2008
  13. Jim1999

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    None of the "versions" enjoy plenary, verbal inspiration, but I do believe enough of scripture has been preserved down through the years so that we can enjoy the word of God in most versions.

    Do we make mistakes when we think we know what God is saying? We surely do, but in keeping close to God in prayer, I believe we receive enough guidance to keep us true to His will in our lives.

    I will never worship a book, but I will worship out of that book.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #13 Jim1999, Oct 26, 2008
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    Good ol' Sal...answering questions that nobody's even asking...
     
    #14 rbell, Oct 26, 2008
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    Are you suggesting that God Himself is not able to stop doing something when and if He Himself chooses to do so?

    Would you claim that the Scriptures teach that God continued to give new revelation or to inspire directly additional Scripture after the completion of the New Testament?
     
    #15 Logos1560, Oct 26, 2008
  16. Salamander

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    Another totally confusing post. Too many "either/if's and or may/maybe's"

    God still reveals His word in all the languages we have the Scripture in today. His revelation has not stopped/ His autographa has stopped.

    His word is inspired/ it is alive and well.

    Anything revealed to the believer or not a believer through the word of God is Supernatural.

    An intellectual understanding of Scripture will always leave one at a disadvantage. A spiritual knowledge of the Bible will cause one to adhere to its Author in a way the intellectual could only dream of obtaining through his intelligence.

    The question is when did God stop speaking?

    God speaks through inspiration/revelation according to His inspired word.

    To make the claim of only original inspiration would inadvertantly left the hearer to conclude that the word of God is dead and God died along with it . Or at the least, he would conclude the inability of God to have His inpsired word available to every man in any language.

    I, and many others, find this ideal to be heretical.

    I am not "bapticostal", although some here would have you think things contrary to the truth about my person.

    Slandering the Salamander has become a common practise on the BB.
     
    #16 Salamander, Oct 28, 2008
  17. Salamander

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    God is not flippant.
     
    #17 Salamander, Oct 28, 2008
  18. Salamander

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    Start a new thread
     
    #18 Salamander, Oct 28, 2008
  19. Salamander

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    God is known to use commentaries which do make a good reflection of His word.

    He speaks to me in good devotionals which reference His word as well.
     
    #19 Salamander, Oct 28, 2008
  20. Mexdeaf

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    Reported as a slam against the ESV, you might as well have used the "p" word. It is just as much God's Word as your KJV.
     
    #20 Mexdeaf, Oct 28, 2008
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