I seem to have backed myself into a cornor in the debate with BobRyan titled is Judaism and Christianity the same. I was hoping someone can tell me what i'm missing. Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. What was Abraham’s faith in? It does not say he believed in Christ, it says he "believed God" or Gen says "he believed in the Lord." I've accepted the statement "believed God" was in regards to leaving his kindred, home and how God would make him father of a great nation. He took God at his word. This is up to Gen 15 as we know his later faith with Isaac. This was also prior to his circumcision in Gen 17 which means this is not a "Jewish" statement. I believe this means Abraham had faith in Gods Word which pleases God. We all know faith honors God because we have put our trust in Him and because faith honors God, God counts our faith for righteousness. This says we can never be perfectly sinless but we can be righteousness through faith. Righteousness as used in verse 3 is said to mean he was justified. Does justified in Gen 15 mean salvation? Was this salvation prior to the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ? If so, please put this in context with this verse? Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.