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When will tongues cease?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Revolt, Jun 18, 2002.

  1. Revolt

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    Please note that the two following verses don't mention tongues at all:
    There is no mention of tongues there because, as discussed above, Paul knew that the true Gift of Tongues was going to be ancient history at the time that knowledge and prophecy were finally ended.
    As usual, the man knew what he was talking about. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]I have refered to you post on pg 1 as you have asked. You didnt prove when tongues would end. You just prove that from the time of paul they would cease. Now I want bible to show me at what time they would cease.
     
  2. Revolt

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    Ok there is an hour and a half left.

    Let me repeat the question in case its not clear,

    When are tongues supposed to cease? What caused them to cease? I want bible to answer this?
    (by bible thats exactly what I meen. Not your ideas or opinions)

    If its the word of God that made them cease then give me your biblical evidence.

    [ June 20, 2002, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: Revolt ]
     
  3. Briguy

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    Revolt, One more time as simply as I can

    1) Tongues were a sign
    2) Signs point to something
    3) Signs end when what they point to happens
    4) Paul said Tongues were pointing to the scattering of the Jews
    5) In 70AD the Jews were scattered
    6) Tongues were no longer given by the Holy Spirit as a gift after 70AD because what they pointed to happened.
    7) Tongues ended on their own as the last people with the gift died.

    Revolt, The verses that prove the above have already been posted by me and Walguy and DHK.

    Beyond the above, there is nothing else that will convince you. The thing is, if we are right then you have been doing something unBiblical for probably several years. This is a big problem and puts you on the defensive. You have something to lose and it is never easy to be in that position. My prayers are with you my friend, as I know you are wrestling with this issue.

    In Christian Love,
    Brian
     
  4. Revolt

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    briguy you have yet to give me a scripture that speaking in tongues was pointing to the scattering of the Jewish people only. In Acts chapter 2 they were preaching the gospel.
    In cor paul says that one who speaks in tongues prays with thir spirit.

    Also I still dont think anyone gets what I am asking for so let me give you some examples:

    Imagination 5:7
    Speaking in tonges will cease with the comlpetion of scripture

    Briguy 2:12
    Speakin in tongues will cease in 70AD when the Jewish people scatter

    I am not wrestling with anything other than people who cant answer a straight and honest question

    (If you want to know the truth I went to churches that held to the ceaseation theory a year and a half ago and spent many hrs in prayer searching this out. God showed me the faultness of this theory and gave me peace about what I belive)

    You guys have 45 min left

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  5. Revolt

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    Half Hour left
     
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    15 minute warning
     
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    5 minute warning
     
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    Well its 11:30 so I am going to have to ask an administrator to lock this topic. I have to say there are a lot of holes in the cesation theory. Briguy you said that it would end in 70 AD when the Jews spread. That doesnt soud like the perfect that would make spiritual gifts cease.

    Furthermore ceaseationnist are really devided on the subject. When did tongues ceace was it around 90AD or was it 70AD or was it the Appostles Death or perhapse the completion of scripture? If any of these are true I would like to see the clear scripture and not someones twist or Idea on it.

    Ceaseationism is a theory that demonizes a spiritual gift from God, devides the people of God, and makes good Christians who are saved and have turrned from their sins look like they are demon possesed, when they are going after God just as much as people who dont belive in tongues.

    If anyone can give me a scripture I am still open for correction just send me a personal message.

    In Christ with Love
    Revolt
     
  9. Briguy

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    Revolt, Paul referenced Isaiah 28. You must not have read it if you don't see how God's judgement came down and the Jews were scattered. By your last post I wonder if you can look at the evidence with any objectivity.

    In Love and Truth,
    Brian
     
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    Simply put

    the Bible clearly states gifts are to cease
    when that is perfect is come

    You state its the Bible which is perfect
    or the nation of Israel regathering

    I say its Christ
     
  11. Revolt

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    Mabey you guys didnt notice but I said if you have any further arguments for me to send a private message.

    By the way your argument doesnt make sence eaithe because the gifts wernt activated until the day of pentacost.
     
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    Revolt, don't hold your breath because they can't show you, Biblically, that tongues have ceased. [​IMG] Try as they may, they can't do it!

    MEE
     
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