and the government starts confiscating guns, what plans do you all have to retake the nation? Do you state's righters have a secret organization? A Christian underground with plans? I just finished a book by an American communist who was in Russia when the revolution started and who personally knew Lenin, Stalin, and the rest. He was in Petrograd and Moscow during the fighting. From what he wrote there were dozens of competing political parties and the Revolution . . . just happened. No one trusted anyone else and there were no plans. The bureaucrats and middle management sided with the Tsar against the peasants. The bank managers stole all the cash and the railroad and telephone workers stayed home. Why would the US be any different if an anti-government protest grows? What would it take for police and fire to change sides? When the Revolution stated Russia was in the middle of WW1 and the line troops were shoeless and hungry in the trenches. Do we have to get that low? I have been thinking . . . if the rebellion comes, the LDS might be the only organization prepared to tale over and Utah may be the safest place. What say you all?