Where are the D.L Moody(s) of the World?

Well I dont know, Bob.

I'm trying to mentally put myself in someone else's shoes. If I admit that the tem commandments are still binding today, how would I be able to justify changing one of them?

Its easier saying you dont have to keep them.


Although it seems too that those who say we no longer keep the commandments also seem to say that they keep the sunday sabbath because of the resurrection.

I try to think how it must be if you have gone all your life in one denomination that promotes the keeping of sunday sabbath and then to be confronted with the idea that its not really the sabbath day after all.

What would I do?

I dont think lots of people understand the importance of the sabbath day and why it matters that you keep it. It seems like lots of people think you must keep the 10 commandments but that the sabbath doesnt matter. Not sure why they single out that particular commandment. I guess its because they can see the perpetual thing when it comes to not killing someone or stealing or worshipping idols.

I wonder if D.L. Moody ever said anything on the topic of the 7th day sabbath and why he kept sunday sabbath instead?

Claudia

 

BobRyan;
I suppose I am as close to Moody belief as I can get. I am not solid on which day though as long as you have one each week that you hold for worship of God for different time zones, lost day, etc. But I certainly believe that it was the Table of the Ten Commandments that were carried across Jordan in the Ark of the Covenant on dry land by the preists with the seven preists sounding the horns and the 12 stones brought from the mist of Jordan to be place where their children could see them and know their fathers had passed this way. I believe Jesus quoted six as far as what is written but I believe he quoted them all for to offend in one point you are guilty of all. I think the reason Christian are free from them is because they don't break them and if they break them they were never a Christian to begin with. If that is what Moody believed then so do I. I do hold Sunday personally but for others who can't because of feeding their families, etc. I see no problem with another day of the week. I have wondered all my Christian if we have the exact day for sure, I figure if we were out of line surely God would somehow through time let us know. Your thought?

 

Strange that He had never heard a sermon on the Commandments. When I was first a Christian the doctrine I continued to hear was that the law was fullfilled and therefore the Commandments were fullfilled. As I studied I began to see that this was not correct but that there were different laws and the brethren were mixing them. The first sermon I did on the Law was a complete disaster for those I was preaching to around me was all the old brethren which did not believe as I did and I saw it on their faces so I fell on mine. I continued to study until I was able to preach it as a picture so as to teach my brethren and in a way they could not deny it. Slowly they began to come to the belief I held, not all but most. We still have many who do not preach as I do but I can talk to them and they will admit even though they do not want to call them The Law of the Ten Commandments but taken one by one they will admit you cannot commit those acts. I ask them "which one can you break and go to Heaven" and they then agree but call it the Law of Christ which I feel they did belong to Christ for it was His Gospel He preached and He preached the Ten Commandments. So if Jesus preached them then so should we.
(let me say this; The Law of the Ten Commandments is the deepest subject in the Bible and you will not learn it in a day but takes a long time to be able to defend it.)

BBob

 

oh boy. that's one I havn't heard...

what are they?

 

BobRyan;
No, I am not familiar with them. One other thing on Sunday please if you don't mind. Sabbath as being Sunday as held by most would be talking about Israel day and time is that correct and are they a day ahead of behind us? I also did a paper on the Ten Commandments in 1996 which I posted on here if the Mods don't erase it because of the length of it. Please read it so as to see how it lines up with what I posted on here.
I also did a paper of double marriage, maybe some time I will post it. I did it in 1996 also. Thanks for the kind comments,
BBob

 

No, but I am going to put it on my web site for Song Books that I publish and will put the double marriage one there too.

 

Would that not make us in reality 8 or 9 hours off from the "real happening" even if we did hold it from evening to evening?

 

Brother Bob,

If you click on this link you can read about the Sabbath... and why we keep it.. or at least some of the reasons why...

National Sunday Law

Some entire church congregations have switched over to keeping the 7th Day Sabbath after reading this little book by Jan Marcussen. Their Pastors read it and then convinced their whole congregations to keeping the Sabbath.

Claudia

 

also, if you will go here to this page there are some lessons there concerning the Sabbath

Sabbath Lessons

You can click on the little "television" icons and watch Pastor Doug Batchelor's sermons.

"Resting the Land" is one about the Sabbath,

and I think that "A River of Life" is one,

and "Bowing to Babylon" and "The Mark of Cain" too.

There could be a couple of others too, I havent finished listening to all of them yet.

But anyway there is more information there about the Seventh Day Sabbath that you can listen to. (or read if you prefer)

Ok I'll leave Bob and Bob to get back to their conversation now

Claudia