Where are the Hollywood Democrats?????

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  1. TexasSky

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    When September 11th happened, it was a terrible tragedy, but it was a tragedy that hit, for the most part, the wealthy of America. Stock exchanges, lawyers, bankers, accountants - - and Hollywood was in the streets crying, talking about the widows and the children that would suffer without their main - income-producing relative.

    I remember scenes of very famous stars walking the streets of New York handing out water.

    Where are these people now?????

    I'm not knocking what they did on 9-11. God bless them for it, but .... these people need them ever more than New York did. Where are they now?

    WHY aren't they doing things now?????

    Is it because LA was full of the poor?
    Is it because LA isn't a mecca for their form of entertainment?

    Why all the crying and knashing of teeth and rending of robes over 3,000 and not over hundreds of thousands?
     
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    You are right! I caught part of the concert last night. It was great. Celebrities like Harry Connick Jr., Faith Hill, Tim McGraw, Aaron Neville and others were there to lend their support.
     
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    Excuse me, but my premise is not false based on the NBC show.

    First - Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Harry Connick Jr., and Arron Neville are all from around the Delta.

    Second - Matt Lauer and several others in the show were from New York.

    The Hollywood people who made such a big deal about 9-11 have NOT spoken up.

    When September 11th happened they were talking about having to turn stars away. They had news reels of stars handing out sandwiches in New York.
     
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    I heard the other day that Morgan Freeman was setting up a celebrity auction to raise money.
    But I would think anyone who makes 5 million a movie could afford to give some of it away.
     
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    Which Hollywood stars make a fuss about 9/11 within days?
    Who was?

    Are you sure those weren't Broadway stars? There is some crossover and they were already here. It's not that long a walk downtown. I seem to remember that most flights were canceled for a few days.

    New Orleans doesn't need Hollywood stars walking around handing out sandwiches.
     
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    I am also wondering which Hollywood "stars" were out saying they were helping as Democrats?
     
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    Is that a tongue in cheek question? Why would they say there were helping as Democrats? I don't think that anyone is helping, or saying they're helping, as members of a political party.
     
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    FTR, my point exactly. It was TS who was saying that.
     
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    I think this caught EVERYONE off guard. This is at a magnitude larger than anyone could ever imagine. It is not a disaster of "biblical" proportions but HOLLYWOOD proportions.
    When the WTC was destroyed it covered a smaller area of real estate. TV cannot capture the size of Katrina's devastation. Once you see some of it from aerial photos ....where does one begin? Who gets help first? The streets are flooded everywhere. This was like a "WET" Pompeii. Rapid uncontrollable disaster.
     
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    Um, that's not true, either. The wealthy may have made the news more, but the whole waitstaff of Window of the World restaurant - primarily Bangladeshis - was wiped out; waiters, dishwashers and busboys weren't poor, but they were hardly wealthy. You seem to be unaware of maintenance workers, delivery people, secretaries, messengers, bathroom cleaners, receptionists, elevator operators (those were some elevators), newspaper vendors, clerks and all the support staff that out number CEOs, attorneys and investment bankers (very, very few accountants in NY are wealthy). Then, too, are the people who worked in the sandwich shops in the area and those who live in the apartments over the shops.

    The big news getters were the firemen and emergency workers who knowingly put their lives at risk to help others. They were not wealthy.
     
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    Magnetic Poles -

    Barbara Streistand was. Martin Sheen was. Madonna was. All of these people came out and made a HUGE production of how, as Democrats, they cared. Not just "as Americans".

    Daisy,

    You are right when you talk about the waiters and the firemen dying, however, the majority of those who lost lives on September 11th were not part of that group. Remember the major accounting firm where everyone but one man was lost?
     
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    My point is - there was a lot more "horrorified' reaction from certain segments of society on September 11th than there is now. Yet, now - more lives are lost, and more people, who had less to begin with, have lost everything.

    I stand by my statement that some of the world's wealthiest died on September 11th. That is not to say their lives matter less, it is simply a statement of fact that when the wealthy died the world reacted and when the poor are dying the world isn't. You said the big news makers were the firefighters. Canter Fitzgerald got just as much publicity as the firemen did.

    With the anniversary approaching, maybe it is time to remember those of 9-11.
    From the World Trade Center
    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/rescue.victims.html
     
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    I've thought the same thing. Maybe because 911 was a series of terrorist attacks and not an act of nature? They were both horrific but different. But still...where are all the hollywood actors now? Is it because they were mostly poor folk? Who knows. Personally I can care less about hollywood, but it would be nice if they coughed up some of their millions they make.
     
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    "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

    Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

    But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

    That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly."



    Does it really matter who gives what and how much? What is important is that these folks are back home as soon as possible.
    All of us need to give cash till it hurts and get these people back in their homes.
    Its a shame that some, especially the entertainment crowd, who always seem to "sound a trumpet" at all their philanthropic endeavors, have to throw concerts in order to allow them to make political statements.
    No one is interested in seeing them perform at a time like this. Just give back some of the cash that the people have been lining your selfish pockets with.
     
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    We need to focus on what the average man or woman is doing ot help. There are hundreds of people swarming the area volunteering to help. Focus on them. It's a whole different ballgame when someone gives or volunteers who doesn't have millions behind their name or dozens of staff members to take care of their daily needs.

    Americans are going to this area to help, not to get some publicity (I'm not saying that's why the stars go, although I'm sure there are some that do), but because they want to help their fellow man.

    What has a Hollywood star done lately? Why are we looking to them?
     
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    Yes, I remember but only the partners of the firms and, possibly, the top managers, are wealthy. Jr. accountants, who have to work for an auditing firm for two years to qualify for their CPAs, staff accountants and senior accountants far outnumber the big wigs. Then add in the clerical staff, secretaries, receptionists, IT staff, vendors and interns and the little guys outnumber the big guys.

    While it's true that an unusual number of wealthy people died, more non-wealthy did.
     
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    TS,

    Canter Fitzgerald got just as much publicity as the firemen did.

    Pardon me, but that is an incredibly ridiculous statement. Who is Canter Fitzgerald? Maybe I've been living under a mushroom but I've certainly heard a great deal about the firemen, NOTHING about Canter Fitzgerald. I think it's a pretty safe bet that is a true statement for most Americans too.
     
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    Just because you didn't pay attention back then doesn't mean they didn't get the publicity.

    Go to the link that I posted and you will SEE who Canter Fitzgerald is, and they lost more people in the World Trade Center than any other agency or group. MOST of the ones they lost were managers and Vice Presidents.

    It was also the gay partners of the Canter Fitzgerald execs who complained that they were not getting benefits since they were not legally married to the people who died.

    If you remember an executive who was on television quite a bit back then who kept saying that everyone he worked with was gone, that was one of the Canter Fitzgerald executives.

    Later, it was some of the widows of Canter Fitzgerald who sued because they said the Firemen's Relief fund provided for the widows of the firemen, but not for the widows of the executives who died.
     
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    Daisy,

    Read that list and you'll see "Vice President of," and "Manager of," over and over and over and over on the list. You actually don't see "Adminsitrative Assistant" or "accountant" show up very up often.

    And believe me, if you managed to get a job at Canter Fitzegerald inside the World Trade Center you were earning a substantial bit more than the average poor black family from New Orleans.
     

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