Which Combination Works Best

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Which combination works best for out nation?

  1. Republican President, Democrat Congress

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  2. Democrat President, Republican Congress

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  3. All Branches Republican

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  4. All Branches Democrat

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  1. saturneptune

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    Which combination of government do you thinks works best and why? When Bush the Second was first elected, he had two years of a Republican Congress. Things did not go so well, and the Democrats took control in 2003. Clinton had the same thing and the Republicans took the Congress in 1994. When one party has controlled both, things did not do well. Bush had a Democrat Congress, and the economy crashed in 2008. Of all the choices to date, Clinton with a Republican Congress produced the best results for the economy, thanks mostly to the Congress.
     
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    Yes, Clinton takes all the credit for the great economy of the 90's, but it was the Republicans who controlled Congress that were behind this.

    The principal cause of the crash in 2008 was the Democrats who pressured banks to give loans to people who did not qualify.

    From Wiki;

    There you go.
     
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    Yes, Clinton takes all the credit for the great economy of the 90's, but it was the Republicans who controlled Congress that were behind this.

    The principal cause of the crash in 2008 was the Democrats who pressured banks to give loans to people who did not qualify.

    From Wiki;

    There you go.
     
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    Didn't Pres Bush have a full Republican Congress from 2001-2007?
     
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    Yes, but the policies began under Clinton were the major factor behind the crash. It took a few years before those balloon payments came due.
     
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    But the Democrats taking the senate in 2007 are to blame for the 2008 crash?
     
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    YES! It was the Democrats (including Obama) who pushed the banks to loan money to minorities that could not qualify for loans. When the balloon payments started coming due under Bush, housing collapsed.
     
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    Surely it is obvious that Pres Bush shares in the blame for the 2008 crash?
     
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    Along with his GOP Congress of course
     
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    Well, he WAS the President, but the policies that caused the crash were all put into place by the Democrats and Clinton before he took office.

    Source- http://tjhancock.wordpress.com/housing-bubble-financial-crisis-detailed-comprehensive-assessment/
     
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    But Pres Bush and his congress had six years to sort things out.

    It appears that neither party has been real skilled at dealing with economy.
     
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    They tried. But you know how the Democrats are, they accuse the Republicans of discriminating against minorities. They didn't want minorities to have homes like white people, blah, blah, blah...

    Obama was involved in all of this with Acorn in Chicago.

    Once you put these government policies into place, sometimes it is almost impossible to reverse them. This is what happened to Bush and the Republicans. I am not saying they share no blame at all, but the major blame should be placed on Clinton and the Democrats.

    Folks simply don't know all this and how it really happened.
     
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    You are correct. I typed 2003.
     
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    Neither party has done well with total control.
     
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    Read the article I linked to. Bush sincerely tried to correct these problems,

    There is more, read the article.
     
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    I am the only 1 of 2 so far who has voted for all 3 branches controlled by Republicans. Yes, Republicans have made mistakes in the past - We ALL must acknowledge that under Clinton and with a House controlled by Republicans and Newt Gingrich, NAFTA was passed and was the beginining of the end of the sound of sucking away American jobs. Republicans get no thanks from me for that!

    There have been a lot of RINOs in the Republican party - Presidents and Congress. I never considered GW Bush a conservative - he was always left of center to me - especially some of his policies after 09/11 and after doing some research on him and some of what he did as Governor. In the past, Republicans in control have been fiscally irresponsible. They have been corrupt. They have trashed the Constitution. Even Henry Hyde (Congressman (R) Illinois) stated that the "Constitution is irrelevent." They have not Declared War but financed wars on borrowed money. And more.

    But 2010 started to change the Republican party. Some of the old life-long dogs of the Republican Party were defeated to new, fresh blood in the Republican Party - fiscal conservatives and moral conservatives - helped along largely in part due to the TEA party. We see the same kind of push in the elections this Fall.

    I came to the conclusion that the best way to change the Republican Party was for us to work at the grass roots level, rather than switching to a 3rd party that has no chance in our predominantly 2-party system. And it is starting to work. So, we are seeing an evolution of the 2 parties - the Republicans leaning back towards conservatism and family values and the Democrats leaning more towards socialism and out-of-mainstream values - i.e., "gay" rights, pro-abortion, etc.

    So, this time in our American History, this time - I fully support a one-party control of the Executive and Legislative branches and know as well, that if Republicans take the WH, the next possible 2 Supreme Court appointments will more than likely be appointed conservatives.

    There is a cesspool in Washington DC to clean up. I applaud the junior members in the House for standing firm on what they were sent there to do. The un-progress in Congress for the past 2 years, the do-nothng Congress, is because Harry Reid controls what comes to the floor of the Senate to be debated and voted on. The Republican controlled House in the past 2 years has sent bill after bill over to the Senate which has been stonewalled.

    Once we get rid of Harry Reid by replacing him with another Senate Majority Leader (and no matter what you think about Mitch McConnell, he will fold under immense pressure from we the people and the conservatives in place in the Republican Party), if we retain control of the House and elect a NEW President - I think Americans will be amazed at what does get done and the corruption, waste, fraud, eliminated and fiscal responsibility that comes about.

    Mitt Romney cleaned up the corruption and scandals and bankruptcy of the Olympics. If there is any candidate that can clean up the corruption, waste, fraud, and get us back on a fiscal path as a Leader, I believe it is Mitt Romney. He is not part of the old guard, the old way of doing things in the Republican Party in the past, like Newt or Rick Santorum - they were part of the problem - and the way they struck me during the Primary Debates was how ugly, hateful, mean-spirited they were on stage as they slung bitter accusations and lies towards Mitt Romney. Yet, he stood there and blinked at their accusations and kept a Presidential countenance and rebutted them. He didn't come across as down and dirty. I was impressed with his composure. Ron Paul never got mean, and I don't remember Michelle Bachman getting mean-spirited at him.

    This is our last chance, America. No matter what the past has been, we can set a New Course with God's Blessing. As corrupt as Washington DC is, there are a few righteous men (born-again un-carnal Christians) trying to keep evil at bay, they are just presently outnumbered. Pray for the few. Support the few. And vote for the few that their numbers may be increased in 2012.

    LET'S TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK! :flower:
     
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    Hey, Lady Eagle, you see I am showing them the facts here. I am with you.

    That said, we need Republicans with real values. Some Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. But overall, speaking in a general sense of both parties, the Republicans best represent good values and sound financial principles.
     
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    I totally agree except for the comment about Mitch McConnell. He actively worked to stop the election of Rand Paul to the Senate within the party and failed. I hope if the Republicans do regain control of the Senate, they will pick a new leader. I would prefer either of your two senators to him.

    I do think this could be our last chance. We have never had a House, Senate and Presidency all in the control of a conservative mindset regardless of the party. Your post in the thread about "What is a Billion Dollars" was very descriptive for our minds to grasp what that number means, not to mention trillions.

    I still give credit to you and Old Regular for convincing me working within the Repulbican Party is the only solution. Working within the Constitution Party was without a doubt a mistake. One thing I do give Bush the Second credit for is his appointments to the Supreme Court.
     
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    Yes! But I just buttered S/N up on another thread and was afraid to say anything.:laugh::tonofbricks:
     

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