Which Denomination is doing the most to preach Jesus around the world?

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  1. TaliOrlando

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    God Bless to All!!

    I have a question, because we all at some point in our lives are not in one accord with someones ministry because of one reason or another. Now, I have noticed that many are against TBN and the preacher that either preach or do Crusades. Example: Benny Hinn, sure he has some issues that many are totally not in agreement with but he does take a Crusade to different Country's and Nations just about twice a month. He goes to places many wont go!!! TD JAKES, great preacher and teacher and sure some are against some of his views but he does great things for the spreading of Gods Word.

    Reindhard Bunkee, also has many crusades.... and many others!! My question is why do they get critizized so much if at least they are speading the Good News of JESUS!! Also we can critizize other denominations..but what denomination is doing the most to preach this gospel ??

    Millions have been saved in Africa through crusades and thats awesome right?? or is it not alright because Benny Hinn is the one preaching at those Crusades??
     
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    God Himself is doing the most, through believers who obey Him. The denomination does not matter; what matters is trust and obedience to God Himself. We do not know which people they are, actually. Many of the 'mass conversions' are shallow, emotional things and very few continue. I think when we are finally privilaged to know, we will find it was the quiet people, who lived lives in trust and obedience who showed Christ to the world in their characters, and thus helped many to come to Him.
     
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    You are so right, the gospel truly is the least of what they preach.
     
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    thats what I mean to say that they preach the gospel. See I understand where you are coming from but why such hate or why such dislike for these preachers or evangelist who actually try their best to preach around the world.

    Have you seen these crusades in Africa, thousands and maybe millions have been touched. I can talk about Benny Hinn all I want but whens the last time I even knocked on my neighboors door to invite them to church....at least he may have faults and I am not defending him just stating the facts that at least he is trying to promote JESUS and his word.
     
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    *sigh* and here I was just surfing through a thread before :sleeping_2: with no plans of throwing in a smart remark like "Baptists ;)", then I sees me old mate Benny mentioned....Sorry, soapbox time....

    Benny is a false teacher and false prophet. He has started false prophesies with the lines "The Spirit of God tells me to tell you" and "The Lord also tells me to tell you", so then what "Spirit" and "Lord" is he listening to? He doesn't have a section dealing with those garbage rants on his web page, so is it a case of just forget about it and pray the "Spirit" and/or "Lord" will give him better luck next time?

    Jerome hit the nail on the head.
     
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    I understand but what about those touched by God during his Crusades... all those who accept Jesus at his crusades!! I understand he may have some crazy issues that only God can judge not us but what about all those people who for the first time in their lives accepted JESUS...
     
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    If God is not praised, He will raise up the rocks to praise Him.

    But, woe to those fools that go to the judgement and say, "But Jesus, I cast out demons in YOUR name."

    If the millions that have been saved in Africa were all counted up, Africa would be a Christian continent . . . I bet they're not a Christian continent.

    ;)


     
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    What do you base that bet on.. how would we know if there are many Christians in Africa or not.. we dont know.

    I understand that many things that Benny Hinn either has said or done are pretty crazy.. all I am saying who are we to judge.
    Example:

    We all have lied at one point in time or another whether its during tax season, to our wifes, our kids or to our boss.

    We all have cheated at one point in time or another: We take longer breaks at work when we shouldnt, many cheat God when its payday and we give our 10%.

    We all have been angry at some point in time or another. Maybe you are a perfectionist and you argue with your wife just because things are not your way... or you argue with your kids because they dont have straight A's. Maybe you have Road Rage and you Argue with everyone who crosses into your lane

    That would make you a Liar, Cheater, and a Angry Christian!! Imagine if when I looked at you I just said ohh... there goes Mr. Tali, sure he reads the word but he is a cheater, liar, and angry Christian... However, instead of that we should say.. There goes Mr. Tali, sure he has made some mistakes.. but maybe if I look at the good things he has done I would see that GOD is changing him little by little.. and If I prayed for him more then I talk about him....maybe.. he would change even more
     
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    We are believers in Christ who are expected to have discernment and are commanded to judge all things according to the Word of God. You make judgements every day. If a beggar who has the smell of alcohol on his breath is begging for $10.00 from you, you need to make a judgement whether to give to him or not. If it were me I would judge no, for he no doubt would go waste it on booze again. Jesus commanded: "Judge righteous judgement."
    He said: "Don't cast your pearls before swine." That implies a judgement."
    He said: "Beware of false prophets." That implies a judgement that you know who the false prophets are and why.
    He said: "By their fruit ye shall know them." That means that you judge them by their fruit.

    1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
    --We can know the things of God, that is we can judge because we have the Spirit of God within us. The unsaved man cannot do so.

    1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
    --The saved man must make spiritual judgements about others all the time.

    Benny Hinn believes in a nine-person Godhead, and thus a denial of the trinity.
    He believes that God is in you, and in fact that "every person is a little god running around on this earth." Heresy!!
    He believes that object of our faith is our words, not Jesus Christ.
    He denies the deity of Christ; but accepts the divinity of man.
    In short he preaches "another gospel," and by Paul is called "accursed."

    The results of his preaching are corrupt for his message is corrupt. Those are the words of Christ. If the tree is corrupt it bears corrupt fruit. So much for all the millions that are Christians by the hand of Benny Hinn. They are not. He is a fraud.
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    I might add comment here concerning mr hinn that he announced to the world in March of 2000 that Jesus Christ would appear on stage at during several of his revivals :rolleyes: .

    http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html

    some interesting reading if you choose.

    Baptists do more to truly evangelize the world than any other denomination that preaches the true gospel that Jesus Christ alone saves.

    Thjplgvp
     
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    Sheer coincidence (er, Godincidence) IF anyone is touched by God/saved at a Benny concert.


    Benny goes above and beyond pretty crazy. He's got the whole set I think. False prophecies, Word of Faith, "slain in the spirit", Prosperity teaching, you name it.


    DHK covered most of it, check out To Judge Or Not To Judge for longer version.


    Have we written on our tax returns "The Spirit of God tells me to tell you that I made fifteen times less than what I really made this year" and "The Lord also tells me to tell you that you won't audit me!" Whatever game Benny is playing, it's a VERY dangerous one. God gives severe warnings to false prophets and false teachers all through His Word.


    I'll be sure to mention it if I ever see Benny do something good ;)


    ....But I'm not a Benny fan, we don't pray....

    Sorry about that TaliOrlando, it's not a shot at you. It just strikes me as a bit funny that every time I've seen the topic of Mr Hinn come up anywhere on the 'net, someone always mentions in one way or another to those who question Benny about praying for him. For the record, yes I do pray for Benny and all other similar false teachers.

    I pray they'll truly repent of and retract their false teachings, and put it on their web sites (most have them). I pray they'll preach the truth of God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and not God the Great Vending Machine in The Sky feeology, or whatever other silliness they can think up at the time.
     
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    The group that is preaching Jesus more thatn any other group in the world is probably the Assemblies of God.
    The growth worldwide is astronomical.
     
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    God didn't allow the denominations as we read 1 Corinthians 1:11-17.
    So-called Plymouth Brethren do not call themselves as Plymouth Brethren but others call them so.
    They are well spread all over the world despite their short history since 1827. Even during Communists Russia, they were inside USSR.
     
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    The promise that "His word will not come to to Him Void" is the only hope that the Holy Spirit will be able to do His work despite the presenter.

    Their are many influential ministers that have given false representations of the Gospel and have lead people down a false path. I've been to mega churches that have turnovers in the thousands each year. Can you imagine the judgement that is going to be passed down on the minister that doesn't preach the full Gospel? What kind of judgement will they get when they have seduced people with the wrong impressions of what Christianity is? The likes of Hinn will have his judgement as stated in II Peter 2


    2 Peter 2
    1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

    3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

    4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

    5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

    6And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

    7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

    8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

    9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

    10But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

    11Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

    12But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

    13And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

    14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

    15Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

    16But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

    17These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

    18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

    19While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

    20For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

    21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.


    22But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
     
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    I'm not sure that any kind of "mass crusade" really reaches a lot of people for Christ. Around the world, in most places denomination is not a consideration. You're either Christian or pagan. I believe God uses those who are willing to serve him, and there are thousands of indigenous believers in Christ who are doing the real job of evangelism around the world, not big-name celebrity preachers. Denominational labels only really matter here in this country, where the church is declining, not growing.
     
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    More people in Islam though, so it must be really anointed.... :rolleyes: :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    "Which Denomination is doing the most to preach Jesus around the world?" That's the title of this thread. It seems to me that the OP didn't address this question. Well, I thought I'd toss in my two cents worth.

    Which denomination is doing the most? Hard to say. I think a better question is, "Which demonination is doing all they possible can to preach Jesus around the world?" Or how 'bout this, "Which Believer(s) are doing all they can to preach Jesus to their part of the world?"

    I'm a Southern Baptist (and proud to be, thank you very much). The SBC is doing a great deal, but I don't think we're doing all we can. In fact, I wonder if the average individual Believer is doing all they can. Maybe if all us Believers would do all we can, then our separate denominations would be doing the same.
     
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    I agree with you SBC.
    I have heard it said that there are places in this world where the gospel is not being preached and the Church of The Nazarene are responding.
    Our Nazarene Brothers and Sisters do a great job in trying to find these remote places and taking the Good News to the People.
    Thank God for The Nazarenes.
    Thank God for all the mission Organizations that are taking the Good News to The people of the World.
     

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