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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by HeDied4U, May 29, 2003.

  1. Baptist in Richmond

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    Ronnie:

    Let me start by saying that I am still married, and have never been divorced. That makes it easy for me to be an observer, but difficult to give you any first-hand advice. Personally, I don't think that divorce on the grounds of adultery is a sin.

    If a Christian is divorced, and has remarried, then there is not really anything that can be done to change that. If we all agree that the Christian should not get another divorce, then the divorced Christian should remain in the current marriage. That being the case, the rules of marriage have to apply to the new marriage. Any advice that contradicts these rules found in the Bible is unscriptural. If you do not apply them, you have a very good chance of ending up divorced a second time.

    If a Christian who has been forgiven of their sin is still forbidden to serve God in any capacity, all of the pastors, teachers, and deacons would have to step down from their positions. God can use anyone from any situation. The Bible teaches us that forgiven sin is just that: forgiven. God is not in the guilt business.

    Please PM me if you have any further comments.
     
  2. AdoptedDaughter

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    And there are some that blow it out of porportion.
     
  3. Baptist in Richmond

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    You mean like denying church membership to a Christian who has asked and received forgiveness for a sin?
     
  4. hsmom3

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    Excellent post. [​IMG]

    hsmom3
     
  5. hsmom3

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    [​IMG] I love it!!

    And for the remarried, they shall have a big R and a corresponding number behind it for the number of marriages. :D

    hsmom3
     
  6. hsmom3

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    Ronnie, it just goes to show you that God is the judge and not people. He knows your circumstances and praise Him, He can use all of us!!!

    hsmom3 [​IMG]
     
  7. AdoptedDaughter

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    That was never said.
     
  8. hsmom3

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    Laura, I need to make a point. No matter what YOU believe adultery is or how YOU define adultery, I would simply respond: SO WHAT?

    Your definition means nothing and doesn't enter into the equation. You cannot redefine an historic term with dictionary definition to your own liking . . then claim someone is "commiting adultery".

    One of the distinguishing marks of post-modern culture is to make new definitions for terms. I would encourage you (and I'm picking at you right now, but we're all guilty of this too) to debate the ISSUE, not your own DEFINITION.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Bro. Bob, I understand what you are saying about redefining things in our culture, but I was wondering if you thought the Lord only considers intercourse as adultery? What about what President Clinton did?

    Thank you!

    hsmom3 [​IMG]
     
  9. Bro. James Reed

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    Show me where I ever said this.

    As the scriptures say, you had a valid reason to get divorced and remarried. I have no problem with your situation. For some reason, people have the impression that I am against ALL divorce and remarriage. I am not. Only that which is said, by scripture, to be adultery.

    You're right, this is my personal conviction. It is because that is what scripture tells me is correct.

    The Bible says that there IS grounds for divorce and remarriage, but it is not all inclusive.

    Bro. Ronnie, you sound as if you had a scriptural reason for your divorce, so I see no problem with it. I just hope that everyone doesn't have the wrong impression about me. I believe that the Bible does allow for divorce and remarriage, but not in all cases.

    Does that clear up some misunderstandings?

    God Bless. Bro. James
     
  10. RTB

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  11. Baptist in Richmond

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    AdoptedDaughter writes:

    &gt;&gt;That was never said.

    Oh, really?
    Check your response in the thread "Is Divorce a Sin?" that you submitted May 29, 2003 03:45 PM.

    This is your response to another Christian asking you if you would vote to allow her into your church.
     
  12. AdoptedDaughter

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    Seems like you like to jump to conclusions. She asked if I would vote to allow her into my church, and I said that I wouldn't (vote that is), I never said that I wouldn't allow her into the church.

    What is it? Someone disagrees with another, so they will do whatever it takes to make them appear to be a lesser person?
     
  13. Baptist in Richmond

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    AdoptedDaughter writes:
    &gt;&gt;What is it? Someone disagrees with another, so
    &gt;&gt;they will do whatever it takes to make them
    &gt;&gt;appear to be a lesser person?

    I have never said this, typed this, or implied this, and you know it.
     
  14. AdoptedDaughter

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    And I never said it was you.
     
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    If you weren't referring to me, then why did you quote me?
     
  16. Dr. Bob

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    Excellent question and needs clarification:

    Adultery = sexual intercourse between a married person and someone not his/her spouse. That's ALL it means. Moicheia in Greek.

    Fornication = any unlawful sexual intercourse (including adultery since it is unlawful sexual intercourse) or other sexual contact. Pornea in Greek.

    So was Clinton unfaithful to Hillary? Yes
    Did he have sexual contact with another? Yes
    Fornication (pornea)? Yes
    Adultery? Unknown. I'm assuming yes, but I wasn't there.
    Did he lie when he said he did not "have sexual relations" with that woman? Absolutely.
     
  17. AdoptedDaughter

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    It's called setting the record straight...

    *Note to all*

    Sorry for the intrusion on this thread... I'm sure that there a quite a few here who would rather not have me post any more on this thread/ in this forum, therefore, I will refrain from posting my opinions (I hope that you each study your Bible carefully on these subjects) and stay out of this forum...

    Sorry for the intrusion and sorry for stating my opinion, it clearly was not welcome.
     
  18. TaterTot

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    Now, now, Adopted Daughter, a debate is a debate. You started a thread that was greatly debated about divorce being a sin, and that one sparked this one, another debate. If we all agreed, it wouldnt be in the debate forum.
    I also took your statement from the other thread to mean that you would not vote that person into the church instead of you meaning you would abstain from voting. That would make this whole can of worms different.
    Can you feel the love?!?!?!?! [​IMG]
    TaterTot
     
  19. AdoptedDaughter

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    Even if that is what I meant, I have every right to vote that way. Just because someone doesn't like what I say, doesn't mean that they need to make me out to be some kind of person who thinks of themselves as holier than thou...

    Words are powerful things, and when not used kindly makes for a very unfriendly place....

    *Sorry, am leaving now...better hurry too, before someone says that I'm self-righteous*
     
  20. LauraB

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    Baptist In Richmond,

    He didn't put an abrupt end to it but I certainly did! He never got the e-mail but the girl got an earful from me, and all of a sudden she told him she couldn't write him anymore! [​IMG]

    But she called him and let him know of this.... HMMM :eek:
     
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