Who are the real war mongers ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Revmitchell, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

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    John Glenn (DEMOCRAT) said this ----- It should make us all think a little:

    "There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city,about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq ."


    When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, tell them the following:

    FDR (DEMOCRAT) led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...an average of 112,500 per year.

    Truman (DEMOCRAT) finished that war and started one in Korea . North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ...an average of 18,334 per year.


    John F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT) started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.


    Johnson (DEMOCRAT) turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ...an average of 5,800 per year.


    Clinton (DEMOCRAT) went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.


    In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaeda, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and, North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. And the Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking.

    But Wait, There's more.


    It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno (DEMOCRAT) to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.


    We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton(DEMOCRAT) to find the Rose law firm billing records.


    It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.


    It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida
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    Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!

    The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.


    But Wait .......There's more!


    JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)

    Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.


    This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.

    Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):


    'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'

    Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): 'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me, as I went the other day...to a veteran's hospital and look those men ...with their mangled bodies ... in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

    You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee ... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DAD'S didn't hold a job.

    You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.You stand there, and you think about this nation,and you have the gall to tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

    What about Metzenbaum? For those who don't remember During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA .

    Now he's a Senator!

    If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English
    thank a Veteran.

    This was originally posted here


    Be sure and verify.
     
  2. pinoybaptist

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    way to go, rev.:thumbs:
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    Rev, now give us the reasons why the US went to war in each of these instances and they decide if any or all of them were justified.


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  4. sag38

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    Crab, why don't you? At least John Glenn, even though he's dumb enough to be a democrat, has a great sense of loyalty and understanding.
     
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    I thought about doing that, but since RevM started the thread and painted with a broad brush, I thought he might be willing to state the reasons we went to war in those instances and say if they were reasonable reasons or not. So, I will wait a bit and see if Rev. knows any of the reasons, justified or not, we went to war in the past.


    As an aside it was a Republican who was in office during the Civil War.

    Actually it is silly to use this issue in attempting to smear or praise a current candidate for office.

    Oh, and Rev. you make your post as a long quote, but do not give a link. I would like to read the entire article and will appreciate if you provide such a link. Thanks in advance.
     
  6. Revmitchell

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    I know emotion tends to get in the way of seeing clearly but you really should read the "entire' post. And I painted nothing with a broad brush.
     
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    Did not see the little blue "here." Thanks for the link.
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    And do not overlook I said also to "be sure and verify".
     
  9. Ed Edwards

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    I see Iran has faked having missiles that work better than expected. Are they bragging about their medium range missiles?

    Don't they remember what happened when Iraq bragged about their WMD (weapons of mass destruction - the ones they really didn't have) the USofA & all attacked?
     
  10. poncho

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    So, then Ron Paul was correct...democrats are just as much in love with the warfare state as republicans. Why wouldn't they be Rev? War always gives politicians what they crave most. More power, more control and more funding.

    It gives the media what it wants, action, drama and ratings.

    And it gives the people something to keep their minds off being robbed by the federal reserve and the IRS.

    So grab a bag of popcorn and let the carnage begin. The warfare state will keep us entertained no matter who's in office.
     
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    You don't understand. Revmitchell doesn't answer questions, he only asks them, especially if what is being discussed disagrees with one of his neocon viewpoints.
     
  12. poncho

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    He answers my questions most of the time. The ones he hasn't I figure he just missed this is a big board with lots of threads and discussions going on all the time. It's easy to miss something.
     
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    Ed's short political commentary:


    Rebublicans - sending American to hell in a hand basket :(

    Democrats - sending American to perdition in a motorized shopping cart :(
     

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