Who did Blacks fight for during the War Between the States

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  1. Salty

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    Thanx for posting this. I referenced these folks in another thread about this subject.
    3. Free black musicians, cooks, soldiers and teamsters earned the same pay as white confederate privates. This was not the case in the Union army where blacks did not receive equal pay. At the Confederate Buffalo Forge in Rockbridge County, Virginia, skilled black workers "earned on average three times the wages of white Confederate soldiers and more than most Confederate army officers ($350- $600 a year).

    19. During the early 1900’s, many members of the United Confederate Veterans (UCV) advocated awarding former slaves rural acreage and a home. There was hope that justice could be given those slaves that were once promised “forty acres and a mule” but never received any. In the 1913 Confederate Veteran magazine published by the UCV, it was printed that this plan “If not Democratic, it is [the] Confederate” thing to do. There was much gratitude toward former slaves, which “thousands were loyal, to the last degree”, now living with total poverty of the big cities. Unfortunately, their proposal fell on deaf ears on Capitol Hill.

    The chapter "Jefferson Davis; Give up the Negro Slave" is especially damaging to the arguments of the war being all about ending slavery.
     
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    The South was honorable. The North was not. Sometimes I think we'd have been better off if the South had won.
     
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    The real problem was the way the South was treated by the North.

    My goodness, we treated Germany and Japan much better after an Unconditional surrender
     
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    I doubt that...from a Christian standpoint (I believe that God is in control and that all things work out for the good of those who love the Lord).

    From a state's right issue, I believe the Southern concept was correct. From the preservation of the union...well, if the South had won I doubt that we would have had the strength to be a "free" nation today.
     
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    On the contrary, I believe there would have been a three-way split, North, South and the Republic of Texas, which wouldn't have remained with the Confederacy because of diametrically opposed economic factors that still exist today between Texas and the rest of the South.

    However, given the benefits of exercising mutual protection and taking advantage of the economic realities that the three would have had in common, I suspect that sometime between WWI and WWII, the three would have reunited, with states' rights issue taking a forefront position in the negotiations and the new Constitution would have been written to protect those above all. We wouldn't have the federalism that is destroying us -- and our freedoms.
     

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