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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by James_Newman, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. michelle

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    Isaiah 1
    18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

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    We are NEVER to reason the truth of the scriptures, as they ARE THE TRUTH. WE are to believe the scriptures without doubt. Paul is speaking to and about unsaved sinners, to reason this fact using the scriptural truth. We are not to use reason and logic to reason that scripture is the truth. Many of you ask us to believe that the alterations evident in the mv's are scriptural truth, to which is indeed not. Omitting scripture is an alteration, to which we should NEVER CONDONE or JUSTIFY, or REASON. This is NOT what Paul was talking about.


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  2. AVL1984

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    Oh, and by the way Michelle, faith requires that you prove your faith with some sort of logic or it is not faith...period. To have faith without any sort of logic is what???? Well, let's just put it this way...it would fit one in well with the members of the Koresh or Jones groups.

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    Michelle, you keep spouting these same sentences, but what you won't acknowledge is that the KJV DOES alter the Word of God from it's own underlying texts in MANY places. This has been pointed out time and time again, yet, you refuse to acknowledge it. If it were not true, we would not have so many versions of the KJV from 1611 to 1769. We also would not have the variations between the Cambridge and Oxford editions. Your logic/faith doesn't stand up to scrutiny even by the Word of God itself, whether it's the KJV or one of the MV's. Though the scripture post was nice, it had nothing to do with the subject.

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    Again, Michelle, let me add...The KJV says "Come let us REASON together" in the verse you posted.
    Food for thought, sister.

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  5. michelle

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    Matthew 10:16...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
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    I knew you would refer to this scripture in response. However, this is not condoning the wisdom of the serpent. This is telling us to know the wiles of the devil, but to be as harmless as doves. WE can know the wiles of the devil, without resorting to using it. One has a better chance in the battle being aware of their enemies tactics and beliefs. Knowing about them, helps one to better fight against them and to be prepared so as not to be taken in by them. This is what this verse of scripture is talking about. Anyways, FAITH in God overrides and is above the wisdom of the serpent, as this is the wisdom of God given to us.


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    Michelle, you keep spouting these same sentences, but what you won't acknowledge is that the KJV DOES alter the Word of God from it's own underlying texts in MANY places. This has been pointed out time and time again, yet, you refuse to acknowledge it. If it were not true, we would not have so many versions of the KJV from 1611 to 1769. We also would not have the variations between the Cambridge and Oxford editions. Your logic/faith doesn't stand up to scrutiny even by the Word of God itself, whether it's the KJV or one of the MV's. Though the scripture post was nice, it had nothing to do with the subject.

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    This is merely your own opinion and lack of understanding the difference between printing, spelling and typeface errors to those of REAL ALTERATIONS. The two are not the same, nor do they even remotely compare, as many would like everyone to believe. No one will ever prove the scriptures in error, as they are God's word of truth to which has not error.


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    Who is to say it is the wisdom of the serpent? You are calling me Satanic, and I take not only offense to that, but will defend myself against it. Funny that the verse fits your needs, but it doesn't fit the truth. That's called twisted logic, sister, and it's unscriptural. Also, calling your brothers and sisters in the Lord Satanic is not wise in any means, nor is it as you state in your posting of Matthew 10:16. It is not being as wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

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    There have been not only errors in typesetting, etc., but in translation. This has been pointed out time and time again, yet you arbitrarily reject it, even though the proof is right before your eyes. Now, tell me, who is the one who is blind????

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  9. michelle

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    Oh, and by the way Michelle, faith requires that you prove your faith with some sort of logic or it is not faith...period. To have faith without any sort of logic is what???? Well, let's just put it this way...it would fit one in well with the members of the Koresh or Jones groups.
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    Actually your belief, is more closer to that of the koresh or Jones groups, as it is very apparent that human reasoning and logic, overruled that of FAITH in the scriptures. If they had FAITH in the scriptures, then they would not have been deceived as they were, and would not have done or believed those things CONTRARY to the scriptures.


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    There have been not only errors in typesetting, etc., but in translation. This has been pointed out time and time again, yet you arbitrarily reject it, even though the proof is right before your eyes. Now, tell me, who is the one who is blind????
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    You are.


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