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Who Is On The Lord's Side?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Kidz-4-HIM, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
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    I agree that God can take something like the NIV and present the Gospel message, but it will never match up to the King James Bible, for, the King James Bible does not back down

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    Anybody for a game of MY BIBLE CAN BEAT UP YOUR BIBLE?
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    My four barrelled canon can wup your
    single barrel!

    Today's Parallel Bible (Zondervan, 2000)
    contains four Bibles:

    1. New International Version (NIV)
    2. New American Standard Bible, Updated Edition
    3. King James Version, 1873 edition (KJV1873)
    ----with KJV1611 translater footnotes
    4. New Living Translation (NLT)

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  3. Elijah

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    Who is on the Lords side? That is an absolutely ridiculous question. To imply that to use anything but an Anglican translation of the scripture is to be against God? Come on! Surely you can come up with something better than that.
     
  4. RaptureReady

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    Ha! Ha! Everyone get it all out.

    Now, you all might like the water down versions, but I'll stick with my "straight stick." Hope I can use that GrannyGumbo. [​IMG]

    This is what I meant by difference in the words, abomination is the best word to use. I'm sure some of you guys prefer Hades vice Hell, chicken vice steak, etc.
     
  5. Orvie

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    HB, if you can call the MV's watered-down, am I allowed to call the The KJV, "dried up"? I'm sure you guys prefer brutish to stupid, pisseth against the wall, instead of male, in Revelation, the living creatures being called "beast" just like the anti-Christ. See, two can play this game of Apples and Oranges ;) :D :rolleyes:
     
  6. RaptureReady

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    What? :confused:
     
  7. GrannyGumbo

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    Yes, indeedy, HomeBound, the "best" way to see if a stick is crooked is to place a "straight" stick down beside that crooked one, amen?

    These poor folks are pitiful. One always sounds like a broken record, another shouts the same thing, others just have hissy-fits, etc. And me? I'm living by faith that I have the true word of God.

    Do ya know what an 'alice pack' is? Mine contains one Bible...only ONE; not several to "make sure"...just one. First thing I'd grab should this old house catch fire? Yup! That "one" Bible. Life's so simple, ain't it?
     
  8. Orvie

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    Yes, these poor Bible Facist are sad sectarians indeed. :rolleyes:
     
  9. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    To all of those who defend the modern versions that believe this:

    ScottE quote:
    I have faith that the NIV is God's inspired Word. I am using that faith that God gave me. And the NIV has more than held its own against the KJV since it was translated. God has used it to touch many, many, many lives.
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    Let me now ask you, how is it then, if this is God's inspired word uncorrupted, and has touched many, many, many lives, that we have seen/witnessed the MOST APOSATACY since it's inception?

    Or don't you see the apostacy?

    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  10. Debby in Philly

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    Hey, does all of this mean that people who only speak Spanish or French don't have the Word of God?
     
  11. BrianT

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    Michelle, the presence of apostacy doesn't invalidate God's word, it just means it's being ignored and rejected by those in apostacy. That's how it's always been. Even Israel, with scripture written by God's own finger on stone, fell into apostacy many times.
     
  12. TC

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    And John (and the other apostles) also wrote about people leaving the faith back in the first century. Since they didn't have modern English Bible translations, what do you blame the apostacy then on?
     
  13. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Debby,

    This isn't about what translations of God's word are in other languages, but speaking of the English language translations - the one's we do know of,( with maybe exception of the few scholars here who might happen to know). Of course people of other languages have God's preserved word (I would assume this by faith). We could probably guess that they also have corruptions of it in that respective language, just as we have in english.

    May the Lord richly bless you all!

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  14. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Brian, TC, you asked me a question that I cannot give you an answer on, because I was not there to observe and witness it, and neither were you for that matter. Let us stay focused on those things we can see and observe today and recent past as far as one can rely upon historical data, instead of avoiding the issue and twisting this to seem as though I am going by a double standard here. You are very clever at doing this, as false as it is.

    Please do not misunderstand what I meant either. I am not saying the modern versions are cause for the apostacy (although I think they probably attribute to it), only that since the inception of them, we have seen a rise in apostacy. I am sure there are many other things that can contribute to the apostacy, but I do think these are part of it.

    My point in asking that, was because it was stated that many, many, many peoples lives have been changed by it, and I think if that was true, we would see the opposite of apostacy - revival. We have not seen revival, but apostacy and it is gravitating toward a one world religion of tolerance. So I do have to question whether or not God is actually blessing these versions. It doesn't appear to be the case overall.

    May you all continue to grow in the Lord's grace and mercy.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  15. Alcott

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    I see the apostaSy in a stupid Scotty who grabbed a throne and wanted his name on a Bible he authorized for his church. And in his claim to have a "divine right" to rule 2 countries and shove overlords into a third without any representative government. And in his threats-- some carried out, some not-- to "make them conform or harry them out of the land" to those who challenged his authority to be "head" of THE church with THE bible. And in the practices of this church of his, such as christening infants and translating John 1:26 as "baptise WITH water," instead of "baptize IN water," as in the NAS. And in this king's imprisonment and torture of separatists, including Baptists, who refused to use his Bible and continued to read the Geneva Bible.

    Furthermore, as to apostasy, the KJV was the Bible of choice for the 'Adventists' who falsely claimed twice to know the exact day of Christ's return; some of which saved a part of their movement by then claiming their dates were correct, but that He had changed his mind because Christians have not observed the sabbath days. That movement still uses the KJV as their Bible. Herbert Armstrong also used the KJV with his similar cult. The Mormons don't believe the Bible, yet they will not even listen to anyone quoting it unless it is the KJV-- what does that indicate about Bible versions and their relation to apostasy?

    The idea that modern translation lead to apostasy while with the KJV no one can go wrong is total possum filth.
     
  16. BrianT

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    Well, I read about it in the KJV. Not good enough? ;)

    And I think that the apostacy would be much worse without them.
     
  17. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Brian,

    You quoted:
    michelle quote:
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    I am sure there are many other things that can contribute to the apostacy, but I do think these are part of it.

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    Brian quote:

    And I think that the apostacy would be much worse without them.

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    And I think there might be revivals today without them.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  18. Pastor KevinR

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    Alcott, as a former KJVO I agree with the gist of what you say, but ya need to chill out. ;) [​IMG] ;)
     
  19. tinytim

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    Apostacy is being brought on by the fact that people don't read their Bible, Whatever version they have.

    Also what part in apostacy do those that slander God's Holy Word, the NIV, play?

    It's easy to say the NIV is corrupt, but be careful for you do not know the mind of God.

    You may say "things that are different cannot be the same."

    If that's so then explain the Trinity.

    Three different persons = 1 God.
    In this case things that are different are the same!!!
    Same with the Bible.
    Many translations = 1 Bible.

    As for all you that shout "the old paths",
    I agree "older is better"
    Thank you Wescott and Hort!!!!!!
     
  20. Kidz-4-HIM

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    Yes, that is true, but the three are the same and they are not always changing to meet sombodies views.
     
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