Who is the Stranger?

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  1. richard n koustas

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    In Numbers 1 when God tells Moses to number the people, He tells Moses not to count the Levites. The Levites will be in charge over the tabernacle. at the end off verse 51 it says that the stranger that comes near to the tabernacle will be put to death. It sounds like the stranger is anyone that is not a Levite. Yet in Lev. 4 God commands that one [common folk and rulers(non-Levites), in addition to priest] bring their sin offering to the brazen alter (that was the first piece of furniture inside the tabernacle) and make their sacrifice. So, a non-Levite with a sin offering is not a stranger or he would have been put to death. I'm a little confused. Who is the 'stranger' in Numbers 1:51?

    Num 1:50 But thou, appoint the Levites over the tabernacle of testimony, and over all the vessels thereof, and over all things that belong to it: they shall bear the tabernacle, and all its vessels; and they shall serve it, and round about the tabernacle shall they encamp;
    Num 1:51 and when the tabernacle setteth forward, the Levites shall take it down; and when the tabernacle encampeth, the Levites shall set it up; and the stranger that cometh near shall be put to death.

    Lev. 4 22 'When a ruler has sinned, and done something unintentionally against any of the commandments of the Lord his God in anything which should not be done, and is guilty, 23 or if his sin which he has committed comes to his knowledge, he shall bring as his offering a kid of the goats, a male without blemish. 24 And he shall lay his hand on the head of the goat, and kill it at the place where they kill the burnt offering before the Lord. It is a sin offering.

    27 'If anyone of the common people sins unintentionally by doing something against any of the commandments of the Lord in anything which ought not to be done, and is guilty, 28 or if his sin which he has committed comes to his knowledge, then he shall bring as his offering a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he has committed. 29 And he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and kill the sin offering at the place of the burnt offering.
     
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    Looks like it means a non Israelite, a sojourner of the land that they were in at the time. Oh whats this, a tent, funny people these Hebrews, whats this all about then. Get the jist.

    NRSV user the word Outsider and refers it to mean anyone, even an Israelite who was not from the tribe of Levi?

    The Levites were to be a buffer between God and the Israelites so that they would not feel His wrath.

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    Quite a thought actually of Gods nature wanting to punish sin quickly and yet He uses means to hold back what He really should do. You can equate it to New Testament teaching very easy. Jesus being our buffer.

    I like the bit in Hebrews that says if Jesus was on earth He would not be a high priest at all, He was not from the tribe of Levi and only Levites could be priests.

    He was from the tribe of Kings, Judah.

    King of Kings, praise His name.
    [​IMG]
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    John Gill, following Rabbi Aben Ezra, interprets it as anyone not of the tribe of Levi.

    The HSCB and NET Bible similarly translate it as "unauthorized person," i.e., anyone who is not a Levite; the NASB renders it as "layman," a similar usage.
     
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    Just a cursory glance would lead one to think it was the non-Levite. Recall that the prohibition was during the "setting up" of the Tabernacle.
    Relating to another thread, Paul saw things in heaven which were not lawful for him to utter.
    Taking that thought into this one, I think we can see that there were certain things which were unlawful for someone (Who is not a Levite) to see. So they were prohibited from being near the site of its setting up or taking down.

    The passage in Lev. 4 has to do with bringing a sacrifice after the Tabenacle was set up.

    Just a thought. What do you think?

    In HIS service;
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    I like the bit in Hebrews that says Jesus becomes our high priest. ;)

    But Christ being come high priest of the good things to come, by the better and more perfect tabernacle not made with hand, (that is, not of this creation,) nor by blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood, has entered in once for all into the [holy of] holies, having found an eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls, and a heifer's ashes sprinkling the defiled, sanctifies for the purity of the flesh, how much rather shall the blood of the Christ, who by the eternal Spirit offered himself spotless to God, purify your conscience from dead works to worship [the] living God? Heb 9:11-13

    Back to the 'stranger': If any non-Levite is condemed to death for coming near the tabernacle, then how could rulers or common people make their sin offerings (which they are commanded to do)? I have two thoughts

    1. sometimes the word 'tabernacle' was used in refence to the sanctuary and holy of holies (not the court - where the altar of sacrifice was). Maybe this is how it is used in Numbers 1.

    2. maybe it means an unauthorized person. the only authorized persons would be the Levites and Priests and unintentional sinners, whose sin has come to his knowledge.
     
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    I think people could approach but only through the correct order of things and procedure.

    Hebrews great book heh! [​IMG]

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    I think Bible study is better than arguing over Calvin thats for sure.

    Bible has some very mysterious and glorious parts to it...facinating!

    David
     
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    If the prohibition was only during the "setting up" of the Tabernacle (I did not read it this way at first), then what you say may make sense. Could it be the ark that the people were not permitted to see? The ark of the testimony had to be covered by the vail each time it was moved.

    Exd 40:3 And thou shalt put therein the ark of the testimony, and cover the ark with the vail.
    Exd 40:21 And he brought the ark into the tabernacle, and set up the vail of the covering, and covered the ark of the testimony; as the LORD commanded Moses.
    Num 4:5 And when the camp setteth forward, Aaron shall come, and his sons, and they shall take down the covering vail, and cover the ark of testimony with it:


    'Approach' was everything. Under the Law, one could only approach God through the high priest, in the Holy of Holies, once a year, not without (animal's) blood. This is explained as a type in Hebrews, Jesus is our better high priest. And '... by his own blood, has entered in once for all into the [holy of] holies, having found an eternal redemption.'
     
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    Perhaps the "stranger" was this guy.
    Joh 10:1
    ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
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    But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
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    To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
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    And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
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    And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

    Just another thought from the NT. He that did not "come near" properly was the stranger.

    In HIS service;
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    "I am the Way the Truth and the Life No one can come to the Father but through me" Jn 14:6

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    Perhaps saying that a "stranger" should not come near is actually referring to someone other than a Levite doing one of the jobs of a Levite?
     

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