Who Pays for Cap and Trade?

You cannot put the economy in further jeopardy and hurt the least of incomes to accomplish a change in energy sources. This move is no friend of the middle class.

 

Contrary to what some believe, Obama ain't no friend of the poor either....... nor of the commonly rich... so called in difference to one's own circumstance.

Nor are the distinctions between each group as massive or significant as he would have all believe if they buy into his class division garbage.

 

The future generations have incurred a huge debt since the coronation of the O and the trillions. Fossil fuels are the least of our problems now.

 

While this statement is true you have to look at how many generations we are talking about. When I was a kid they told us the oil would run out before 2000. But every year we are finding more reserves than we use and old oil fields that were supposed to have run dry long ago are for some reason refilling.

When it comes to coal the forecast is so far out that they cannot even estimate the end. Where once they said that at current levels we had 150 or 200 years of coal, not that estimate is over 1000. Yes fossil fuels are finite, but there is still enough for another millennium or more.

Yes, someday the human race will have to explore alternatives. And when fossil fuels become more expensive to mine then their cost will go up and there will be an economic incentive for companies to explore those alternatives. If the government leaves it alone the free market will work and alternatives will be developed.

The truth is that cap and trade has nothing to do with clean air, it is a deliberate attempt to destroy our industrial base and hurt our economy. Those who support it want nothing more than the enslavement and poverty of the American people. Don't try and tell me the democratic party and president Obama want the economy to get better. At every step they are taking actions that hurt the economy. There is no way anyone could be that stupid, it has to be deliberate.

 

Amen and Amen!:thumbs:

 

Yes, necessity is... however you want to make government intervention the force behind invention.

But due to the law of unintended consequences with your system you will find very little advancements that will solve real life problems but instead find pointless unproductive research and development of technology that is not cost efficient conducted because companies want those government dollars.

As taxpayers we will lose more money - sent down the rat hole of liberal dream lists - and as consumers we will lose out on real advances in technology that could directly address the real problems.

You arrive at this conclusion because your premises are faulty. The huge debt that you speak of is being generated by the government intervention into the free market that you advocate.

Research by free enterprise will cost you, me and future generations nothing.

Your lack of education concerning markets and economics prevents you from considering other options than the government solution to everything.

 

The debt I was referring to is the huge one we had coming into this administration. It is not like government deficit started on 1/20/2009...

 

A belated AMEN but you are exactly right. First a bankrupt country then the door is open to socialism and a third world country. Unfortunately I believe that as the O'bama the 1st recession worsens civil unrest will grow. Perhaps that is the reason for the civilian "security force" and the renewed attempts to limit private ownership of arms.

 

Spin - sorry I am not buying it.

You brought up debt left for future generations in the context of fossil fuels and the cost of development of alternative sources of energy.

My reading and comprehension skills are adequate to the task - too bad for you.

 

Translation, I think:

Since Bush ran up a debt...it's fine for Obama and his administration to spend us into oblivion.

Since we're in debt, there's no need to try to get out of it.

Yeah, that's some superb reasoning...