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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by evangelist-7, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Logos/word IS God the Son, he became human flesh as jesus!

    not 2 seperate times, just one time God became a man and lived among us!
     
    #41 Yeshua1, May 22, 2012
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    jesus was/is the second person of the truine God, as he was JUST God the Son, logos/word, and he became human form and flesh, and THAT is when he became jesus.... So His diety/divine nature is from eternity, while his humanity from time of Him coming thru His mother mary!
     
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    Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
    (John 8:58 KJV)
     
    #43 thegospelgeek, May 22, 2012
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    From Gill.........
     
    #44 thegospelgeek, May 22, 2012
  5. Yeshua1

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    And the Jews who heard him took up stones that stone him with, as they knew he was claiming to be the God of Isreal there!
     
    #45 Yeshua1, May 22, 2012
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    He is also God, Almighty !
     
    #46 savedbymercy, May 22, 2012
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    Re: “or”, I was distinguishing between 2 ways of looking at it.
    Re: sendings, the difference is they’re 30 years apart, time-wise.

    John 17:5 ... the Logos, the Second Person of the Triune Godhead, is speaking.

    John 17:24 ... the Logos, the Second Person of the Triune Godhead, is speaking.

    Hebrews 1:2 ... when the Logos became flesh (Jesus), Jesus was given the name/title "Son of God",
    as explained in the OP.

    P.S. I realize these new concepts are very difficult to comprehend.
    .
     
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    The Word (Logos) [the Second Person of the Trinity] was sent by the Father, and became flesh (Jesus).

    At this point in time, this ONE born of Mary began being CALLED "Jesus" and "the Son of God",
    as per the instructions of Gabriel.

    When Jesus was on earth, was the Word (Logos) NO longer allowed to speak?

    When Jesus said, "Gee, I was with the Father (and shared His glory) for the last trillion years!"
    ... why cannot this actually be the Word (Logos) talking?

    When Jesus walked the earth, the "fully God" part of Him was NOT Jesus, it was the Word (Logos)
    ... because it was the Word (Logos) who became Jesus in da foist place.

    I just don't see an eternal Jesus coming down to earth and becoming flesh (Jesus).
    No, the Word (Logos) came down and became flesh (Jesus).

    I see "Jesus" and "the Son of God" as being only names/titles.

    But, after the Word (Logos) was given these 2 additional names,
    it was kosher to say they were equivalent to the Word (Logos)
    ... on earth and then later in Heaven (including now).

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    its NOT that jesus is a man who was possessed by the Logos, that it came upon him say at his baptism and left at his death...

    He was/is BOTh God nature and human nature in One body and being!
     
    #49 Yeshua1, May 23, 2012
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    Are you talking to me?
    Nothing to do with His baptism ... just His birth.
    We're both saying the Fetus or Baby became totally God, and He also was obviously totally human.
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    #50 evangelist-7, May 23, 2012
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    Do you hold that it was God becoming a man then?
     
    #51 Yeshua1, May 23, 2012
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    Of course ... you're going to have to read my posts more carefully.

    The Word (the Logos) was/is God, and He came down and became flesh (Jesus) ... John 1:14
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    #52 evangelist-7, May 23, 2012
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    What difference does that make that it was 30 years apart?

    In those years, Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

    Let us discuss this very difficult topic by just using scripture and words the Bible uses, and give scripture. Is the word ‘Triune’ in the Bible? If it is, then give the scripture too. If it is not, then do not use it. Would that be okay with you?

    Now, why are you pointing it out that Jesus is speaking in John 17:5?
    Please explain to me why you are pointing out that “the Second Person of the Truine Godhead is speaking.”
    What is your point about that?
    What new concepts are you trying to convey?
     
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    Why would you wonder if Jesus was no longer allowed to speak?
    What makes you think Jesus did not speak?
    What are you talking about?
    The Word was God.
    Then how do you explain that Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation, Colossians 1:15?
    Why is it so hard to believe that God created Jesus in Mary’s womb, but that that same Jesus was also created before the creation of the world, and then all things made through Jesus?
    You think that Jesus went up to heaven and turned back into being what?


    Then are you saying God just loved the title before the creation of the world?
    John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

    What were the 2 additional names you are talking about?
    What do you mean?
     
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    Some forum threads should be given the warning label: CCC
    … which stands for:
    Concentrate – closely on what you are reading
    Comprehend – the meaning of what you are reading
    Consider – openly what you have just read
    .
     
    #55 evangelist-7, May 24, 2012
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    Moriah, please thoughtfully read post #55.
    And then, if you so choose, go back and study everything that I have written.
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    #56 evangelist-7, May 24, 2012
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    No thoughts on the above thoughts concerning a Father and Son.

    I also have always wondered why the Holy Spirit God included the following in the word.

    And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
     
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    Do you hold the before he came to earth as jesus, God the Son was the Word/Logos of God, never a time when he did not exist?
     
    #58 Yeshua1, May 24, 2012
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    Your rudeness sounds like a cover up for the inability to explain your beliefs. You should be glad that someone is trying to understand your confusion. When you come up with a strange idea to be discussed in a public forum, be prepared to put up with questions. I already read what you had said before, and it is not coherent. Do you understand that?
    Jesus was with God in the beginning, and not just as a title.
    You accuse Jesus of being a title, and that God loved only a title.
    You should be thrilled that I paid this much attention to your strange doctrine.
     
    #59 Moriah, May 24, 2012
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    Condescending.....don't remeber that as one of the fruits of the Spirit.
     
    #60 Jedi Knight, May 24, 2012
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