Why again?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by neal4christ, Jun 9, 2003.

  1. neal4christ

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    I started another thread that pointed out some inconsistencies on the part of those who argue for the exclusive use of the KJV today and nobody dealt with it. I just wanted some simple explanations of why it was acceptable for them to have double standards. And rather than get any answers to the examples in particular I showed I get accused of ultra logic (whatever that is). No, is seemed like common sense to me. No ill-will on my part, and I would appreciate not being accused of it. But anyway, why can't I just have an explanation to my points without derailing the thread and fighting? I honestly, sincerely, truly wanted some simple explanations.

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  2. Pioneer

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    Looking at your previous posts, it appears to me that you are just looking for another way to ridicule us King James Bible believers. In other words, I don't trust your motives and don't care to chat with you.
     
  3. neal4christ

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    I didn't do any twisting. I stated the obvious. Why can't I get a simple answer? I am not trying to ridicule anyone. I would just like to know the reasoning behind why some things are okay for some people and not for others. I have stated my motives as well. Are you calling me a liar?

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  4. Daniel David

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    Such is the nature of all KJVOs on this board. First dodge, then name-call and accuse. Now, they can read hearts. Classic.
     
  5. Anti-Alexandrian

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    "1 Corinthians 2:15
    But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." Case closed!!
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    MV-neverist: // "1 Corinthians 2:15
    But he that is spiritual judgeth all things
    , yet he himself is judged of no man." //

    Yet again, we Bereans request that you cite,
    the Bible in which you found your verse.

    Thank you. Fortunately I have a handy paper
    copy of the King James Version as published
    in 1611 so i can look that verse up there.

    I.Corinthians II:15 (KJV1611):

    But he that is spirituall, ||iudgeth
    all things, yet he himselfe is ||iudged
    of no man.

    Translator sidenotes:
    || or, discerneth.
    || or, discerned

    I.Corinthians II:15 (KJV1611, alternative):

    But he that is spirituall, discerneth
    all things, yet he himselfe is iudged
    of no man.

    See, "judgement" in English has two major
    meanings:
    1) to be condemned for sins
    2) to discern between good and evil

    Pioneer: "Looking at your previous posts,
    it appears to me that you are just looking
    for another way to ridicule us King James Bible
    believers. In other words, I don't trust
    your motives and don't care to chat with you."

    Thou discerneth amiss, IMHO.
    Oh, i forgot, you are shunning me.
    Maybe i aught to shun you ;)

    Neal4christ: "I didn't do any twisting. I stated the obvious."

    Amen, Brother Neal4christ -- Preach it.

    Neal4christ: "And rather than get any answers to the
    examples in particular I showed I get accused
    of ultra logic (whatever that is)."

    I think that was someone which a sense of humor [​IMG]
    They though you used logic,
    which certain KJVOs CANNOT ABIDE.
    So actually it was a compliment, i think.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. HankD

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    Not you personally Pioneer, certainly not from me and most of the others here on the BB.

    Many of us here who post on the BB see your BELIEF that the KJV English supercedes the Greek and Hebrew (if indeed you do) as an error.

    It seems to me dear brother that it is difficult for you to separate our condemnation of that error from a supposed condemnation of your person.

    It simply is not so. There is a difference, a big one.

    You certainly must admit that some very harsh words have come from both sides.

    However, I have seen many MV supporters praise the KJV (when the smoke clears) but never the other way.

    For myself, I use the KJV almost exclusively because it is based on the Traditional Greek Text.
    I use the NKJV for modernization of AV words and occasionally the NIV or another MV when it is faithful to the TR.
    Occasionally I will find a passage in which the MV's follow the TR while the KJV does not.

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  8. neal4christ

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    With all due respect, what is the point you are trying to make with this verse? I am asking honestly. Are you trying to imply that MV users are not spiritual? Or that you cannot be wrong because you are spiritual? Would you please expand upon your motives so that I will not take you the wrong way?

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  9. Daniel David

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    Neal, a couple of points:

    1. They are not implying anything. They explicitly say just that.
    2. It isn't the first time the KJVOs prostitute Scripture for their own evil ends.
    3. Do they ever use Scripture in context?
    4. No reasonable dialog can exist with liberals.
    5. KJVOs are liberals (TomVols a moderator) has said as much also.
     
  10. Dr. Bob

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    Excellent point,

    Adding a new revelation/new doctrine as have the onlies is indeed NOT more conservative but more liberal.

    So if we get into name calling (ad hominem in Latin) there is ammunition. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Istherenotacause

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    I see your "conservative" Slick Willy has taught you well.
     
  12. Istherenotacause

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    At least when you have caused the division, I know who remains on the RIGHT side!

    BTW, Your rhetoric fully indicates you being a liberal, conservatives don't talk like that.
     
  13. neal4christ

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    How do conservatives talk? :confused:

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  14. Scott J

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    The responsibility for division lies with the party that has departed from biblical authority for their beliefs. DD is separating from you KJVO's. The responsibility for that separation lies with those that deny the biblical fundamentals.... the liberals... namely in this case the KJVO's.
     

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