Why are you saved?

Yes it is.
What is your experience of salvation? How did you become a Christian?

 

Blessings be upon thee!! Amen!!

O for a thousand tongues to sing!! Hallelujah!!

:godisgood: :jesus: saves!!

 

Saved because "God so loved the WORLD that HE gave..."... Saved because "God convicts the WORLD of sin and righteousness and judgment".. saved because "God has warned us to FLEE from the wrath to come".. saved because we were urged to "choose life wrather than darkness".

Being WARNED to FLEE the wrath to come- the sinner turns to the gospel - convicted of his sin and need and desperate situation and accepts eternal life.

Your question is -- but wouldn't the depraved sinner be more noble by choosing God out of a sense of selfless love, because of a desire to enter into pure holy fellowship with his savior and creator God?

I think that higher nobler motive is there in some small way as he leaps out of the fire into the and of the Divine Fireman. And I think that the motive you speak to grows stronger over time.

But it is like a man in a canoe with two oars rowing to a straight line. Both oars are needed.

How do I know -- look where the lake of fire is manufactured. It is done AFTER the 1000 years. That is very very instructive as it speaks to the way that BOTH oars are being used. Notice that Rev 14:10 places the destruction of the wicked "IN THE PRESENCE" of the lamb and of His holy ones. The ones LEFT to REMEMBER it are not the wicked - but the righteous as we are told Matt 10 He "DESTROYS BOTH body and soul in fiery hell" during that event.

Accepting the Bible just as it reads - yields a lot of valuable answers.

In Christ,

Bob

 

The whole message of salvation not just part of it!:thumbs:

mature Love comes over time, you commit and learn to love. Do you think people who heed Jesus' call is not grateful for the oppertunity. God loves such a heart.:godisgood:

 

short version:

grew up in church, mainly evanglical, baptist and a few other things

Read my bible and prayed and fasted

sexually immoral - wishing for death

hateful - horrible relationship with parents

young stupid

Best friend becomes a disciple of christ

I studied the bible with him and other brothers, got convicted with the truth of my sin, repented, got baptized and added to God Kingdom.:godisgood:

that's it.

 

I heard a preacher say one time,


"People say that Hell isnt a good reason to get saved, well It aint a bad reason".

If it wasnt for hell, what is it all about? Lead me to the nearest bar.

 

Tell me about it!

No Hell, only Heaven? Great, that pretty much lines up with most major religions that reject Christ.

Usually people who don't want to acknowledge that realities exist concerning life after death are the same people who treat or teach others that God is a sugar daddy with no wrath.

IF YOU BECOME A CHRISTIAN YOU WILL BE WEALTHY LIKE YOUR PREACHER. GOD WANTs TO GIVE WEALTH TO YOU ON EARTH..

 

I don't find any fundamental problem with yours, but it seems that we differ in terminology and in how to describe the processes of what we experience. As for this issue, let's continue in other threads where bmerr and DHK are ( knowledge for salvation)

 

Why am I saved?

Because 25 years ago...after about 2 years of conviction...God drew me to Himself and indwelt me with the Holy Spirit, sealing me into His body and securing me for heaven.

PRAISE GOD! :godisgood:

Mike

 

Hopefully this comes across the right way, but:

I noticed that you and a few others make a habit of elevating your experience above Jesus' teaching regarding salvation.

Just because God helps us like he would ANYBODY, does not mean that we are saved at that moment. What this actually means is that if we have a conscience we should then seek Him (His way and on His Terms).

 

I am saved solely because God is gracious and merciful, and I am a loser in my own right.

 

I'm still thinking I understood you just like a few others even after the above post.

I guess in any case, it still doesn't seem like the appropriate question.

Just my opinion