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AMEN BROTHER:applause:

 

So your trying to explain what...."PARADOX"?

 

Surprised they did NOT jump all over you on that one! Is there truth to it? They dont walk the sacrament / works justification. I dont know any non-calvinist baptist that goes to Mass & tells his or her sins to a priest.

 

God will change a goat like Saul and bring him back into His flock, then there is hope for anyone at their crossroad to Damascus. Saul is the one who was cut out for unbelief and now is included back in because he did not continue in his unbelief. Saul is the message of hope for anyone even a goat leading men to destruction

 

No I present the truth of scripture to anyone willing to explore biblical truth. I have presented specific scriptures showing Arminianism is a mistaken view of scripture and I have presented specific scriptures showing Calvinism is a mistaken view of scripture. But rather than anyone actually engaging, I get dismissive remarks to the effect my mind is closed, from Calvinists.

I believe the lost can be saved, Calvinism teaches if a person was not chosen individually for salvation before creation, they are damned and nothing anyone does will alter that outcome.

Whosoever believes becomes whosoever was chosen and given the compulsion to believe shall not perish. Total rewrite to put man's doctrine over God's grace.

 

get behind/past the sacraments, and lookm at the fact BOTH groupps see man has able to freely assist in the salvation process, as we will be the deciding factor on getting saved!

 

Do you believe that a Sinner can freely decide to come to jesus and get saved than?

 

Both groups? Surely you are not referring to Calvinists as being one of those groups.

 

Gee Whiz, someone actually noticed Yeshua1 simply posts mistaken views serially?

 

Pitchback

Could the first soil of Matthew 13 come to Jesus? Nope. Rather than asking me what I believe, why not study what God has taught in scripture. Does scripture actually say no one seeks God at any time unless regenerated? If not then you can see that the doctrine is man-made! Then you can read about the other three soils of Matthew 13 that did seek God and trust in Jesus. So the T of Calvinism is an obvious total fiction. But wait, they say, no one seeks God effectively. Yet another fiction. Was the fourth soil regenerated? Calvinism will claim yes, but note such regeneration is not mentioned, it is just added by Calvinism. If you can add to scripture, rewrite verses and redefine words that scripture can be nullified by the clever stories of men.

 

It is difficult at times to untangle Yeshua's commentaries

Here is what he said:

Much of modern non cal though more akin to catholic thought

 

Now there is an interesting potential topic for you Yoshie...compare & contrast the differences between Catholics & Non Calvies! Bet it will get tons of action from RC & Non Calvies alike. :smilewinkgrin:

 

Bottom line is that for BOTH groups, the basis of getting saved by God is to assist Him, as the catholics see God giving them Sacramental graces, while Non cals see it in the Gospel itself as giving "Graces" to allow them to freely deicde for Christ!

 

Unless the lord [repares beforehand the soil to receive and hear the Gospel, it falls upon 'deaf ears"....

 

The soil is ruined by us cursed by us for the innocent blood we shed. God gave the few the tools to work the ground His word and the Holy Spirit. It is our curse to work the ground not God and God as man started it off. We work in the field and God causes it to grow. The only one's who believe man has no role in salvation of man is Hyper-Calvinist. The soil is so horrible right now and so rocky. The farmer who sits and does nothing has no crop and God is making His appeal through us. A good shepherd uses His sheep to heard in the lost.

 

Well, this falseaversy has been been put to rest.

 

Thanks for proving my point. :thumbs: