why did God allow Satan to test Job?

Everything God does is right - full stop.

From your myriad previous posts and replies you don't really want an answer - you just want to complain about God from your finite human mind.

What do you do?
Accept that God is smarter than you.

God doesn't have to answer to you or me.

People will post scriptural responses which you will ignore as you have done over and over again.

[ November 20, 2004, 05:50 AM: Message edited by: C4K ]

 

It is very simple, as explained ad infintum, I am not as smart as God. I do not try to put Him in my little box and expect Him to act the way I want Him to act. Your constant wilful questioning of God is really getting old. You have to decide who is smarter, you or God?

You clearly don't know your Bible. Job did not "stay cool" all the way through. We wondered and doubted, but his ultimate faith was in the fact that God was right. At the end of the day he did know that God had done the right thing.

Consider God's word today, Jimbo, not for Job, but for you. I am only posting the first part of Job 38 from the NKJV. Take it or leave it Jimbo.

"1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:
2 "Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge?
3 Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5 Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone,
7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 "Or who shut in the sea with doors, When it burst forth and issued from the womb;
9 When I made the clouds its garment, And thick darkness its swaddling band;
10 When I fixed My limit for it, And set bars and doors;
11 When I said, `This far you may come, but no farther, And here your proud waves must stop!'
12 Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place,
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it?
14 It takes on form like clay under a seal, And stands out like a garment.
15 From the wicked their light is withheld, And the upraised arm is broken.
16 Have you entered the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?
17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you? Or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?
18 Have you comprehended the breadth of the earth? Tell Me, if you know all this.
19 "Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place,
20 That you may take it to its territory, That you may know the paths to its home?
21 Do you know it, because you were born then, Or because the number of your days is great?
22 "Have you entered the treasury of snow, Or have you seen the treasury of hail,
23 Which I have reserved for the time of trouble, For the day of battle and war?
24 By what way is light diffused, Or the east wind scattered over the earth?"


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It is simply because your faith is in your own wisdom - not in God's.

Until you get yourself off the pedastle of your heart and put God there you will have the same problem - sorry friend.

I don't know the motivation behind your posts. I have a hard time accepting that it is a spirit if genuine inquiry, for many folks have shared the truth with you and you simply complain about how God doesn't fit your mould of Deity. I also have considered that possibly you are trying in some way to argue (or point out the fallacy of) the hyper-Calvinsit viewpoint, that unless you are part of God's elect you can do nothing of yourself and that you are destined to hell through no choice of your own.

Sadly though Jimbo, my opinion is that you are simply here to troll this board. I cannot judge your heart though. I would like to think that your search is valid, but just can't see it from you continual postings.

 

If you are serious, PM me or email with your location and I will see if I can find some good Christians in your area who will be able to help you. Can't promise you anything, but I will be happy to look.

 

Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, "Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. 32 But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to Me, strengthen your brethren."

 

I don't see it as scary, Jimbo. In fact, it shows a purpose for trials.

Look at it again.

Jesus told Simon (a name that means he who listens or obeys) that Satan had to ask for permission to test him. Jesus promised to make intercession with our Heavenly Father during this time (Simon Peter was going to deny Christ 3 times during the arrest and trial yet Jesus was promising to PRAY FOR SIMON during HIS own trial!) Next Jesus points out that Simon Peter WILL return to Him, which should have consoled Simon Peter in later years. Jesus said WHEN you return to me.... and then a command to 'strengthen your brethren'. Share with others and help them become strong. Tell them of forgiveness and the unending love of God.

You and I go through trials of many sorts, allowed by God, for our own good or in some way to edify our brothers and sisters in Christ. There's always a good reason when God puts us in a trial.

The Bible tells us that TODAY, Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father making constant intercession for His children.

Ro 8:26
Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Ro 8:27
Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Ro 8:34
Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Heb 7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

 

I don't understand your term, 'falling off'. Can you explain?

Can doubt and faith co-exist?

 

Fall off faith? Are you implying disbelief in God?

 

the Lord gave,and the Lord hath taken away;blessed be the name of the Lord.Job 1:21 Lo,these are parts of his ways:but how little a portion is heard of him?but the thunder of his power who can understand?Job 26:14 The book of Job sure is a blessing.God bless you Jimbo!

 

Job 13:15 Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him. Even so, I will defend my own ways before Him.

How can faith and disbelief co-exist??? Distrust??? God become 'strange'???