I decided to bring this up here from the Calvinism/Arminianism debate forums because it seemed more applicable here. The topic had started spinning towards the worth of mankind, and folks were discussing the value of man, and whether or not God saved us by sending Jesus Christ becuase he saw some value in us. And I sat and stared at this little quip and wondered myself... Why did God save us? We turned our backs on Him! We had no way of reconciling, Was it His Grace alone? Was His character involved? Did His character demand that Grace be shown? Somehow I am trying to see where God's character fits in with our salvation. I am going to look around for some verses, and check with some Dr. Wilmington writings to see what I can come up with. Has anyone any thoughts?