Why do Far Right "Christians" Love War and Guns

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  1. JustChristian

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    I don't understand how Bible believing Christians who are so adament against abortion support war and guns. It's all the same thing. A life is a life.
     
  2. just-want-peace

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    Would somebody in JC's neighborhood please call 911! Poor guy is losing it!

    (At least he didn't blamed Bush (so far) in this thread! :laugh: )
     
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    Some of us Bible believing Christians understand that sometimes war is necessary and sometimes guns (or another weapon) is necessary.

    For me, guns are only necessary in self defense. I have no problem with a person using any weapon to protect themselves or their loved ones.

    As for war, again, it is acceptable for self (nation) defense. War is a horrible thing and should be a last resort. We should only engage in a war with a country that has threatened our borders or is an immediate threat to the lives of American citizens.
     
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    Abortion is murder.

    Killing someone in self-defense is not murder.

    Murder as defined by Merriam-Webster is the "crime of unlawfully killing a person..."

    Capital punishment is lawful, therefore not murder, same goes for war. To take war a step further the Genvena Convention says that a prisoner must be protected. So killing a prisoner (unless he is attempting escape) would be murder.

    JustC, All murder is killing, but all killing is NOT murder.

    As a career solider, I do not relish war, but I was prepared to go, if I had to.
     
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    I hate war. I hate war so much that I refused to vote for either major candidate. I knew the zero would expand the war into Pakistan, enlarge Afghanistan, and not end Iraq.

    Why do left wingers love war, and abortion ? Why do some "Christians" misrepresent their brothers so often ? Why do you run away from biblical challenges ? Why don't you answer one of the thousands of questions you've been asked ? Why do you support a war in Afghanistan and want to punish Bush for starting it under false pretenses ?


    Guns are different. I wouldn't say I love mine, but I do take very good care of them. Ever try and shoot an elk with a slingshot ?

    Got an NRA card in my wallet, and a sticker on my front door. Can I send you a "gun free household" sticker for yours ?
     
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    For some reason when I made my comments above, I was only thinking in terms of guns and humans. So, I amend my statement to include that I have no problems with guns when used for responsible hunting.
     
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    I don't understand how bible believing christians can support a babies murder.
     
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    I took JC's advice, and when I go hunting, I'm going to throw pebbles at the quail, turkey, or deer.

    Will someone bring me some food before I starve?

    JC, you would've hated our Founding Fathers' guts.
     
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    I don't either. The difference is I believe in the sanctity of all human life. Why is the life of an unborn child worth more than the life of a 4 year old Iraqi girl killed in this senseless war?
     
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    I hope the quotes around the word Christian in the Title of this thread is not a slur to us right wing Christians... as if saying we are not truly Christian because we beleive in self and national defense!

    JC, why did you put quotes around the word Christian? Hmmmm?

    To answer the OP..
    Guns are a way to kill animals for food.. I don't hunt.. but sure do appreciate the venison I get each fall.. Guns also serve as protection against criminals the liberals slap on the wrist and let go.

    War is a necessary evil... If you have a problem with War, then talk to God.. He is the one that said "there is a time for War.".. . I have yet seen where he approves abortion...

    War is national self defense.. .

    God says to defend the defenseless... that is a high priority for us conservatives...

    You liberals defend the criminals... why?
     
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    I agree - a four year old's life is just as important as that of an unborn child.

    In fact when I debate someone on abortion, I often say, "You have convinced me - I now support abortion. I believe a woman has the right to kill her baby up till 90 days after he is born!"

    But I disagree - we are not fight a senseless war. But that is for a different thread.
     
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    You mean, mean, meany.. a good christian wouldn't be supporting stoning.. you shouldn't judge! Go hug a tree!.. eat your veggies... and leave those poor defensless animals alone...
     
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    I've got three cards in my wallet. Memberships to the American Legion, the NRA, and of course , the ACLU..........!!!!!
     
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    Comment #1-----------see Bible account of young David-----true, he never "downed" an Elk---------but anyone who can snatch a Lion by his beard and wrestle a Bear to the death(of the bear, of course)------and who could "rock" Goliath to sleep(permanately)--------I figure, he'd have no problem with slingin' an Elk!!!

    Comment #2--------mine is not a gun free household, neither-----I like 'um and wish I had more
     
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    NO JC YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN; IT IS NOT THE SAME THING. I would explain it to you but you would not understand. If you would read the Old Testament you would learn the difference between war and the slaughter of innocent unborn children. You might even learn the difference between capital punishment and the slaughter of innocent unborn children. Consider the following:

    Proverbs 6:16-19
    16. These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
    18. An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    19. A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


    You can look up what Scripture states about King David, the "man after God's own heart", and his wars.
     
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    Probably for the same reason the Christians on the left are so adamant against the war but support abortion.

    And before you deny that - you did vote for the abortionist in chief did you not?
     
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    If he voted for Obama he gave the nod to a globalist, same as you if you voted for McCain. Globalists or One Worlders all have a few things in common. Here are some of them.

    A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

    An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    This pretty much describes 99% of the world's politicians along with their bosses...the global bankers and weapons makers.

    So my question to all of you is this...

    How can you love God and support what He hates at the same time? How biblical is that??

    Thanx for the proverbs OR.
     
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    Well, if David had a 30.06 rifle, I'm betting he'd have used it. He weren't afraid of weaponry, that one.

    It's still easier to buy a gun than a car, in Montana. That's why we don't have home invasions, and gangs terrorizing local businesses, like they do in the blue states.
     
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    Abortion is the taking of an innocent life.

    War is fought against a guilty tyrant.

    Guns are used personally to defend one's person against an attack or to kill animals for food; an activity that scripture sanctions.

    You liberals would kill innocent children and let mudering criminals go free. Yeah, that makes sense!
     
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    Good post, this wicked country was founded on rebellion. There is nothing Christian about this satanic country. Guns don't keep us free, God does. He gives freedoms to those who obey Him. America is nothing more than a tool being used to bring about the one world order. We have freedoms because Satan needs more ignorant Christians to die in useless wars. Once the noose is firmly around our neck it will be lights out.
     
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