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Why Do I Read The KJV?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Kidz-4-HIM, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. Terry_Herrington

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    As the Church Lady would say, "Aren't you special." :rolleyes:
     
  2. HeDied4U

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    K4H has said...

    So, what you're saying is that those who don't speak English are outta luck? Sure sounds like that's what you're implying.

    Boy, I'm sure glad God predestined me to be born in America, where we have His perfect, preserved AV1611 Word, and not in some backwater, third-world, non-English speaking country where whatever "word" they have isn't His Word. THANK YOU JESUS!!! :D [​IMG] :D

    God Bless!!!

    Adam [​IMG]
     
  3. HeDied4U

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    K4H has said...

    But isn't that exactly what you are doing? By making your cut-and-paste posts, aren't you engaging in debate, and thus "fussing" right along with the rest of us??? Hmmmmmmmm?? :D [​IMG] :D

    God Bless!!!

    Adam [​IMG]
     
  4. tinytim

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    Hey, I must be special too. I just got back from a mini- get- away with my family.

    (K4H, I was even in your neck of the woods.
    We were at southridge yeaterday and today.)
    BTW, used to live at Alum Creek.


    Anyway, it is comforting to know that the same ol things have been happening. I didn't miss much.
     
  5. gb93433

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    Your theology is absolutely wrong. I guess you would say that the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic is wrong because it is not KJV. How can you be so judgmental. Are you God who is the judge? Seems to me that your life is in accordance with the first few verses of Romans 2. You might also try reading James 2:4, "Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts." And James 4:16, "But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil." Gal. 5:22-26 might work well for you too.

    So you tried to witnessed today. How about the other six days? God doesn't allow me to try to witness I am a witness. Try looking at Acts 1:8. If you are only trying then you do not have the Holy Spirit. When I have the Holy Spirit I am a witness.

    If I led one person to Christ and discipled them on the average of one per year and they did the same thing. I would have been reponsible for 512 people coing to Christ at the end of ten years. At the end of 20 years it would be 524,288. That would be if I led one person to Christ each year and each person I discipled led one to Christ and discipled that person.

    So quit trying and do as Jesus commanded in Mt. 28:19,20. We are called to make disciples not just try to witness. You are a witness. You are either a good or bad witness but you are a witness.
     
  6. gb93433

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    I feel sorry for some people because they are so condemning and have to live with themselves. Ever notice the only people Jesus ever condemned were the religious people of his day. You know, those who were the junior Holy Spirit. After all God needs more help in accusing the brethren.
     
  7. tinytim

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    I agree, witnessing happens naturally if you have the Holy Spirit in you. The problem with the

    "lay on a guilt trip, if you don't come out 'witnessing', or 'soul winning'"

    church is the fact that they are not disciple making churches.
    I've been in them and the only thing they brag about is how many 'souls' they won.
    We are to be about soul winning everyday.
    We are to make disciples.

    Don't limit yourselves to being a "hyles-manite"
    Be Christ like.
    no where did I see Jesus Stand up and say,

    "Ok, listen, this Tuesday night at 7:00 we are going soul winning. If you truly love God, you will keep his commandment to soul win. So let's all show up for the most important service of the week. If you don't, you'd better check your salvation. Because True Christians love to soul win."

    I love to win souls, but its not a numbers game.

    Besides, if you teach them KJV worship, and the 1-2-3 believism stuff, you are wrong.
     
  8. gb93433

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    What you wrote is exactly what I believe. In fact in scripture there are times when the Holy Spirit prevented them from saying anything.

    Witnessing is about walking with God more than the one-two-three punch. Jesus told us to make disciples. I sought to show some numbers because so many seem to brag about how many souls they won but not about the babies they made. They continue to make babies because they do not disciple them. I was trying to show that if one were to make disciples it is far easier to reach a far greater number of people in a lifetime by simply making disciples through multiplication than just straight evangelism by addition.

    Witnessing is not so much about how much we know but whom we know and how we long to know Him. It is a passion not an information center.

    I remember very well the time I went visiting with an older man who was taught the machine gun appraoch. I knew the young man understood very little of what was said. So I went back and talked with the young man and explianed the gospel and answered his questions. That night be became a Christian. I took the time to listen to him and explain the gospel in such a way that he understood. We must treat people as those whom God has created and Jesus died not as a target to be shot.
     
  9. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I wanna be like you! Will you help me?
     
  10. GrannyGumbo

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    Why do you do this? :confused:
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Because I really cannot believe that this kind of comment is meant to be taken seriously.
     
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    Kidz sez:

    Quoting and linking is a common courtesy of the Internet. Otherwise, we would think that this is your own work. I do not understand why you would cut and paste from someone you don't know.

    Actually, a copyright is created when someone publishes (puts on the Internet) anything. I realize this is not understood in "cut-and paste" circles, but it is the law nonetheless.

    And to the point, you have "quoted" someone you do not know, nor do you know the valdity of his or her comments.
     
  13. robycop3

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    Originally posted by Kidz-4-HIM:
    I have been out trying to witness today, not like most of you, sitting at the computer fussing over something.

    Can't speak for everyone, of course, but I considet the hour-or-so I spend typing ant the two hours I may spend researching as fellowship/study time. I hope YOU begin to spend more time studying, putting on more of God's armor for you, so you become more immune to being deceived by such false doctrines as KJVO.


    As for the not giving credit to the person who wrote my post, there was no name given and it was not copy written.

    Most likely, the writer intends an "anonymous" work to be public domain, but if I use such an article, I try to tell the readership where I got it.(NOT trying to be smart aleck; just saying what "I" do. What YOU do is entirely up to YOU.


    I do not have time to set and fuss with a bunch of 'christians' who claim to have God's Word and then debate about it.

    So you blindly take someone else's word for it?


    I BELIEVE THAT THE KJV IS GOD'S HOLY WORD FOR THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE enough said.

    So do I. However, the KJV is NOT the only version God has provided for the English speaking people. Whoever taught you otherwise is wrong.
     
  14. robycop3

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    Kidz: "I have been out trying to witness today, not like most of you, sitting at the computer fussing over something."

    Cline, I'm ready to witness 24/7. There are two occasions for me to witness-my participation in door-to-door ministry and the instances that seemingly pop up outta the blue. I've witnessed at work, while grocery shopping, at sports events and over the internet. It is the HOLY SPIRIT who presents the opportunities, so I try to mane the most of each one.I consider my time here as witnessing in a way, as I'm doing my bit to dispel false doctrines and reminding everyone, myself included, that GOD is in overall charge. He may not always administer the "nuts & bolts", but nothing happens without His allowing it or causing it.

    Remember, Cline, God's miracles are very often not instantaneous or obvious to everyone. My wife was critically injured in a schoolbus accident in December 2000, and spent a MONTH in ICU & over another month in the hospital, but God used a fraction His power on her. The most obvious miracle was that she lived for the first 24 hours. The next one was that she was slowly healed over the next 8 months to resume most of her normal life. the third was that her mind & personality was unaffected by all this. No, these miracles weren't spectacular such as someone's hopping from a wheelchair & turning backflips would be, but they were just as powerful and awe-inspiring to us who saw them. You might want to consider that while thinking of the BV issue, that God has different strokes for different folks. Why are we diverse from one another? Because God made us that way, as He chose. Same with His word-He provides it AS HE CHOOSES, and one should think long and hard before condemning any version of His word.

    P.S.

    God can make something good from something bad! There were two people SAVED in that dreary ICU waiting room(You WVians, KYans & Ohioans who've been to Cabell-Huntington Hospital may be familiar) from hearing us Christians praying together and enquiring from us. Each of us had a loved one there at death's door, and not all of them survived. But their eternal security had already been sealed! The men who were saved wondered how we could be so relaxed & casual when we each were undergoing a family crisis-SO WE TOLD THEM THE SOURCE OF OUR STRENGTH and read God's word with them! Yes, from that watered-down old NKJV, that snipped NIV, and that 400-yr-old KJV.
     
  15. Fraser

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    I dont understand why we as Christians are
    are fighting over each others bible?
    Isnt the real issue " Salvation" remember the " Lost" This bible war is hurting Gods work!
    As long as you can get Saved through these bibles, isnt that what counts? I use the K.J.V.as well as other bibles,which I feel is better representing the text.Remember PRIDE follows a fall.I know one thing, This bible war,not just on this forum, but every where is confusing people,and turning them off completely. So how is this representing unto the LORD?
     
  16. Alex Mullins

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    Cline:

    Good work and I am with you all the way and I encourage you to continue on in your discernment for the truth.

    More believers need to study the mind of God which is clearly revealed in His Word for us, in our language today, the KJV, to know that God would never have inspired holy men to put His word on paper unless He fully intended to preserve it. (Psalms 12: 6 - 7 and others).

    Furthermore, a short study on the work and intent of satan will reveal clearly that it is his intent, working as he does, through men and powerful organizations such as the Church of Rome, over hundreds of years, to corrupt this perfect word.

    There is one reason for this. It is to make the Bible less effective, to divert and divide
    true believers away from the real mission.

    In this regard, Satan has been successful.

    Defending the KJV on this forum is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. Those on both sides of the issue get dirty...... but the pig enjoys it!

    Defending the KJV, even though you do it out of love and a real desire to have them know the truth, will cause people to despise and attack you personlly. Funny thing how the mind of man works, isn't it. This persecution and criticism for seeking after truth is further evidence that we are on the right track.

    The KJB is just as effective today as it was when it was written in Koine greek, on papyrus thousands of years ago.

    Keep up the battle and never stop fighting for what is pure and what is good and what is right.

    Your friend in Christ

    Alex
     
  17. Alex Mullins

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    Isn't it amazing how God continues to work, in spite of how we have perverted, corrupted, rewritten His Word.

    Halleluah, what a Savior!!

    AV Alex
     
  18. Alex Mullins

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    Fraser:

    It is true. The bible has no saving power in and of itself. It is, however, a valuable tool in fighting the battle. Can you think of a better method for Satan can get in among us in this way and cause divisions by perverting, corupting and re-writing God's word through well-intentioned occult worshipping men like Wescott and Hort and anti-Christian organizations like the Church of Rome, subtely, over a period of hundreds of years.

    I am thankful that God is still works and is saving souls who seek Him, in spite of what men have done to His word.

    How gullible are we that we need a new easier-to-read Bible every six months?

    How could anyone believe He would inspire it and not preserve it, perfectly? That would make him a liar and all that work for nothing.

    All the modern versions are mere concordances when compared to God's pure word the KJV, preserved for us today, just the way He meant.


    There, I said all that without attacking anyone on a personal level, except the one who is responsible for perverting the word, Satan himself. That's what he does!!

    God bless you all as you ask God to lead you to the truth on this issue, as I have done, over and over again. That is not how my God works. He never fails!!

    Now that you have this truth, let's stop the arguing and get to work. Next issue we need to deal with is the origins of rock music and how it is sweeping through our evangelical churches today. That is the next burning issue we need to deal with.

    AV Alex
     
  19. Precepts

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    I thought maybe some one had you "banned" for making light of the debate. :rolleyes: sec.
     
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    Something just occurred to me as I was savoring a morsel of real chocolate...

    You can offer me a piece of plain chocolate or some of that fake-tasting diet junk they call chocolate & I'll pick the REAL stuff everytime.

    Does that make me "chocolate-preferred"? NO! I gotta have the genuine thang! :D

    Same goes fer my Bible, too. [​IMG]
     
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