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Discussion in 'Politics' started by poncho, Sep 6, 2008.
Simple question. Why do people have abortions?
I think that is mainly as a method of birth control and I disagree with it.
There are a lot of reasons. In addition there are the reasons that people give and then the real reasons. Some are for selective purposes (e.g., aborting down's babies, or some other defect). Some are to cover up affairs. Most are in some way or another connected to convenience, I think.
Convenience, wouldn't that fall under selfishness?
Absolutely ... the elevation of an individual over everything else including others.
Reasons for abortions
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions. Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:
* 25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
* 21.3% Cannot afford a baby
* 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
* 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
* 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
* 7.9% Want no (more) children
* 3.3% Risk to fetal health
* 2.8% Risk to maternal health
* 2.1% Other
The rate of abortions actually went down significantly from 1990-1995 (Clinton) and has pretty much leveled off since then. I think a lot of this is economics.
I certainly agree that most of these reasons are unsupportable. A lot of abortions are related to the mother's economic status.
Selfish reasons on a personal level.
On a parental level, I know some women who's parents made them have an abortion to save their face, whatever that is.
To cover up their sin?
A Reason to Make Your Blood Boil!
For what ever reason a person has for murdering the unborn child, is what they must answer to God for. However, if I cast a vote for the politician that supports infanticide and murder of the unborn then I must answer to God why I was an enabler. Furthermore, if abortion is to be the American norm then no one has the right to extort my honest, hard earned, income to fund the likes of Planned Parenthood and the abortion mills.
Well there are lots of individual reasons that have been listed, but I think we are missing the obvious one:
Because they find themselves pregnant and don't want to have a baby.
Now you can list all kinds of reasons why they don't want a baby but the bottom line comes in how you view that baby. I believe it is a human life and deserves the same protection that we give any other human life. I believe that belief is biblical and scientifically defendable.
However, if you view that baby as "tissue," or something less than a human life then why not remove it. What we need to remember is that the pro-death crowd don't believe they are taking a human life.
If that were true then I would agree with there position. If that were true than abortion would be nothing more than a medical procedure and would deserve all the same privacy that we give any other medical procedure.
Of course I believe that the baby is a human life, but I don't think the pro death folks realize they are killng a child. I don't think they are evil and mean to kill babies, they are just ignorant.
convenience and greed, a lack of caring for anyone but self.
Not most all of these are unsupportable. Good grief.
Please Tell Us
Hey Poncho, will you eventually tell us why you think people have abortions? Your readers want to know, well, at least I want to know.
Same reason they had abortions back when *Jesus walked, in Judean/Roman times
Contraceptive reasons mainly.
*does not mean he approved although he did not personally protest in front of Roman/Judean houses of power,
He just did not demogouge it like it has been demagogued today.
He encouraged life by changing hearts and ordering the "Great Commission" over the Abortion issue.
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So, are you saying that because the Bible doesn't tell us that Jesus didn't protest specifically against abortion, Christians shouldn't either? (Not clear on what you are inferring.) Also, who are you saying is demagoging this issue? (Again, not clear on your meaning.)
So far I'm thinking it's mostly a matter of putting self above everything else. I say mostly because there seems to be times when the person having an abortion uses collective reasoning. It'll be better for the "group" if I abort my baby. Some may even look at it as a form of self sacrifice. But I don't know for sure because it's hard for me to wrap my mind around how taking the life of another is a self sacrifice.
Oh, yes...let's all keep in mind that Jesus had standards, but He didn't get carried away or anything. I mean...Jesus understood that religion had its place, and there's no need to be intolerant or anything.
And of course, only radicals would demagogue...I mean, it's not like it's a baby or anything. It's just a mass of cells...an inconvenience with DNA.
And of course...Jesus was not really that concerned about blastocysts. Children, maybe...but not fetuses. I mean, that was above His pay grade and all.
Congratulations on one of the most disturbing posts ever on the BB. You should be thankful that your mother didn't choose to believe such, or you wouldn't have had the opportunity to post such tripe.
News flash: These "products of contraception" that you don't seem concerned about...they would happen to be "the least of these."
If my post is demagoguing...fine. At least it stands up for kids.
I lke tentmaker's post as well..
People who support abortion will need to repent before they die, or will be standing at the Great White Throne Judgment.... and will be guilty for enabling murder...
Vote for Obama at your own risk, you have been warned.
The health of the mother is not debatable?
You are so dramatic and judgmental. If I were you I would worry what God thinks of me before I go pronouncing judgment on others!