Why follow the world honoring Easter & Christmas

Hello Brother John. I believe you and I may (in Christ) have one thing in common, and that is we have believed on our Lord Jesus Christ for our salvation.

I don't understand why an "alternative celebration" is needed. Aren't they wishing to do the same thing as the heathen Japanese do? Monkey see, Monkey do! This looks to be following the way of the world, and not His Word. We are to walk not by sight of those things we see in this sinful world, but by faith, which is in Him. He told me how to remember Him, and I have no plans to add to what He tells me.

We continue to disagree. Continuation of the heathen holidays are today being practiced on the dates that the heathen demanded, and the churches today walk step in step with the heathen, for they accept that Jesus was born on the day that the heathen "god" was. We know this is error, but continue to accept what we have been told, not by scripture, but by an earthly church that is of works, and full of error. Is it God who told this church to celebrate Easter, or Christmas? We believe the Catholic church that we should embrace these Holy Catholic Holy Days, so why do we not also get us some holy beads, bells, and water? There is no way we can fully enter into these holy catholic days, unless we partake of the beads, bells, water, with the blessing of the Pope. We really need to translocate over to her (Catholic) beliefs to get the full effect of Christmas and Easter.

You point out the very reason, and the proof historically -- "Bibles in every bookstore and Christian programs on every TV and radio." Find Easter and Christmas in the Bible. How much more proof do we need?

 

Can't disagree with this

True words. Taking in the above scripture, and this one we still must "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22. Abstain from all appearance of evil." I find paganism "evil" wherever we may find it.

Fully agree, but I believe they should be made aware of the origin of Christmas, and Easter, showing they have no foundation to stand on as they worship, accepting December 25 was the day God was born, or Easter was known or observed by the "kingdom church", or the Body Church. It is up to them what and when they worship. We will all answer to whom we listened and obeyed, while we lived.

Double that HankD.

 

Hi tinytime. I should have been more specific. From the 1930's I never frequented a Southern Baptist church that recognized Lent. Many today are doing that for, in my opinion, they wish to be put back under bondage as Paul tells us. We are of through faith, and not by faith. We are connected to Jesus Christ by Israel, but our umbilical cord was not cut until after Damascus Road. We are not of this earth of four hundred years, or forty days and forty nights, but of the heavenlies, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4. According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5. Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6. To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8. Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9. Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself", Ephesians 1:3-9.

Do we know what the mystery is, and when it became known? Was it in Old Testament times while Jesus lived and plainly told us He did not come for we dogs, the Gentiles?

I found an interesting site of a Ken Collins, of the Christian church (Disciples of Christ), which is located at http://www.kencollins.com/question-41.htm, which offers more than what I post here.

In Bold is my input for consideration.

"Lent began in the apostolic era and was universal in the ancient church." Prove it.

"For this reason, Lent is observed by the various Presbyterian, Methodist, Lutheran, and Anglican denominations, by Roman Catholics, and by Eastern Orthodox Churches." He knowingly omits the Baptist for it is true.

It is much easier to explain who stopped observing it and why." Here we go - hang on to your hats.

In the 16th century, many Calvinists and Anabaptists discarded all Christian holy days, on the theory that they were Roman innovations. That was their best information at the time, but today we know that they were wrong. In the late 19th century, ancient Christian documents came to light. The Didache from the first century, the Apostolic Constitutions from the third century, and the diaries of Egeria of the fourth century; all which give evidence of the Christian calendar and holy days. The Didache and the Apostolic Constitutions were written in the east, which denies it ever recognized the institution of the papacy. Egeria was a Spanish nun, but her writings also describe practices in the east. All of these documents came to light 300 years after it was too late for the groups who had already discarded Christian holy days."

Holy Moly now my eyes have been opened. We now have proof that the stupid Calvinists and Anabaptist had no idea of what the "Didache from the first century, the Apostolic Constitutions from the third century, and the diaries of Egeria of the fourth century; all which give evidence of the Christian calendar and holy days. The Didache and the Apostolic Constitutions were written in the east, which denies it ever recognized the institution of the papacy."

The ignorant Baptist only believed the Bible. And some of them still do not have enough sense to believe that men other than the Apostles, and those chosen by the Holy Spirit, must be listened to. These that were not chosen by the Holy Spirit can give us so much more insight into what He really meant to tell us.

 

Let's look at it from another view in order to be very clear. The Holy Spirit is not deliberately ambiguous, but we can make it so.

Do some not observe the Sabbath day over all others? Do not some observe the first day of the week over all others. Paul says fine to observe such days. Paul also says we may "esteem" every day of the week alike.

In the context of this scripture Paul is not talking about One or Two days in a year. A day does not mean one date out of the year, but in a seven day time period.

 

Is it biblical, or what you want, just as you have indicated?

 

Hi abcgrad93. Yes for this was the beginning of what we now call Easter.

It was the same back then for it is springtime, and the "god's" brought forth new life again, and the rabbits speak to continuous regeneration. I don't understand why we would want to include eggs and rabbits to join together on a pagan appointed Holy Day to worship our Lord Jesus Christ. How "religious" we have become bringing eggs and rabbits into our churches, not because we thought of these things to worship and honor Him, but because Constantine welcomed into the church the pagans, and their idol worship of "gods" giving us the dates we must use to tell when to have our Holy Days of each year.

But why do the "Easter Bunny", and the eggs continue?

Agree Society has changed, and Society has changed the church, but before Jesus, the "eggs and rabbits" were. I know much of what I present looks to be overkill for some, but we are to know who and what we worship. Easter is not a Christian name but of origin from the Chaldeans formed from Astarte, the "Queen of heaven". What have we to do with a "Queen of heaven"? She wants her Easter eggs, and rabbits, which we supply her at the time of year she wishes. These things are from the hands of man, for we can find no references while any Apostles lived or an early Christian church ever observing what was unknown to them. Even if they had ever heard of Christmas, or Easter, it would have been foreign to them and not brought into the Christian church.

I cannot find Easter, but I do find Pasch, or Passover, which is not Easter, of which the Jewish Kingdom church in Jerusalem faithfully kept. The Christian church did not keep the Passover, for we worship our risen Lord. If we truly wished to have a day out of the year to worship Him, it would be on the DATE He arose and came forth from the tomb. It is the same every year, the date being Nisan 18, our April. But we are told to "……worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh," Philippians 3:3