Why I am no longer a KJVO

I came out of the belief after joining here on BB.. back in 2003.. that's one reason I even joined BB.. I was looking for information about the debate, and BB was the best place to discuss it.

Also, when I realized that Jesus didn't use the same text that is behind the KJV OT.. that really opened my eyes...

Like someone said, all a person has to do is read the Bible..
Compare the OT quotes by JESUS to the OT of the KJV.. and you realize they are different..

Who is wrong? JESUS or the KJV OT? NEITHER.

Jesus in his own way of reading from the LXX showed that HE endorsed different versions.

 

I came out of KJVOnlyism as well. It wasn't explicitly taught by our pastor at all, but was rather supported by several in the congregation (who also happened to teach Sunday School and Bible Studies). The KJV was revered, almost worshiped, while the "devil's bible" (NIV) was utterly condemned. Our pastor used the KJV so I thought he was good with it.

I eventually had my eyes opened by some great bible teachers on Moody's radio network. They did not all use the KJV but they taught the truth. I began to do some investigating on the subject but couldn't find much info at all.

We were eventually led to a different church. The pastor used the KJV but referenced other translations from the pulpit. I became good friends with a much more mature Christian that I was able to discuss this with and I still thank God for Mike.

I now use the ESV and NKJV for the most part but will pull out several other translations when I am studying. I will still reference the KJV but it is mainly to see how it phrases something as that will be what most of the elderly around here are familiar with.

I have said all of that to say this... all of the translations I use all say the same things using different word choices. God speaks through all of them as they are all His word. I don't have to try to put God in my little box of a single translation anymore as He has shown Himself to be truly God and fully capable of preserving His word throughout not only the ages but through the many attempts at translating His word.

 

I never did believe the KJVO myth, and indeed hadn't really heard much about it until about 30 years ago. I've studied it closely ever since, looking at fiorst to find some merit in it, but finding none. I have been working for over 25 years to show people that the whole KJVO doctrine is as man-made as mariolatry and other false Catholic doctrines, and has no place in the Baptist community. (I belong to a fundie Baptist church that accepts NO man-made doctrines of worship.)

 

Do you find the ASV to be still considered Most literally/accurate English version based on how it treated greek?

 

I have heard it is by some very educated professors in the subject.

I want to say again that I have never heard any arguments coming from MV preferred people as to which version is the most correct. I have heard discussions as to which are most accurate and which type of translation they use; but they are not arguing, just discussing their likes and dislikes. The ONLY fighting I have heard is the KJVO pastors and people who come on this board and preach KJVO that we are all using Satanic Bibles and they come from Satan. The only reason King James did a new Bible had to do with money and thus "Authorized Version" was stamped on the front as a copyright by the printer saying no more than their printing company was Authorized to print it by the king as long as they kicked him back his cut.

How do we explain the people who were literally killed for reading and using a Geneva Bible. Might be an interesting marketing ploy for NIV or a new version. It worked back then.

The Mayflower brought the Geneva Bible to America. There was one KJV on board and it was requested by someone in England and the captain kept it hidden in his room. He didn't want to get into a copyright infringement and then the US began to bootleg the KJV and not give the King his cut and that was part of the issues we dealt with regarding England.

So, I can't buy your argument regarding Satan stirring people up except He may be stirring up the KJVO's somewhat to get a fuss started, again I have never heard an MV preferred arguing a version like a KJVO I know from the pulpit who actually says the new Bible's came from Satan. I think that is very dangerous talk when talking about a book that tells the gospel of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

 

Interesting that they put that verse there instead of 2 Timothy 3:16

 

Many KJVOs believe that doctrine because THEY DON'T STUDY its veracity and origins closely. Simple study reveals that the current edition of KJVO is derived from 7TH DAY ADVENTIST official Dr. Banjamin Wilkonson's goof-filled 1930 book, Our Authorized Bible Vindicated. This book was heavily copied by "J. J. Ray" (whoever that is/was) in a 1955 book, God Wrote Only One Bible, in which Ray doesn't acknowledge Dr. W whatsoever, and both W's and Ray's boox were heavily borrowed from in Dr. D. O. Fuller's 1970 book, Which Bible? While Fuller at least acknowledges W's work, he avoida all mention of W's CULT AFFILIATION or Ray's plagiarism, depending upon the lack of public knowledge of those men to keep those facts quiet. These three boox, brethren, are the foundations of the current KJVO myth, with Dr. W's book being the cornerstone.

Vitrually every pro-KJVO work since then borrows from those three boox. For example, almost all of them have the incorrect "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie", which was first unloaded upon the general public in W's book.

We see that the foundation of the current KJVO myth was born in dishonesty; how can we say such a thing is from GOD? The clincher is that there's not one word of SCRIPTURE, even in the KJV itself, supporting KJVO. In fact, a thorough reading of the AV1611, including all it marginal notes and the translators' extratextual comments, will prove many pf the points of the KJVOs wrong.

The heart of my years of research about KJVO has been reading those three foundation boox, checking out the veracity of all their assertions, and thoroughly reading the AV 1611. From this, I have clearly seen that the KJVO myth is a bad apple.

While I did my research the hard, ole-fashioned way in libraries, the Internet makes this work much-easier. We can now do in a week what took me several years to accomplish. The only time-consuming act is to read those boox, and the AV 1611, but I highle recommend anyone who's interested in the versions controversy to read all those worx!