Why is this patient denied govt assistance for breast cancer?

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  1. Salty

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  2. David Lamb

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    I cannot see why being a man has anything to do with it. Men can get breast cancer too, although granted it is far more prevalent in women.
     
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    US law only allows breast cancer treament for females.

    Now if it were the other way around the N.O.W. would be all over it.
     
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    Only in America! People get medical coverage in Canada. Breasts are not limited to women!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers,

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    The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care

    ".......I was once a believer in socialized medicine. I don’t want to overstate my case: growing up in Canada, I didn’t spend much time contemplating the nuances of health economics. I wanted to get into medical school—my mind brimmed with statistics on MCAT scores and admissions rates, not health spending. But as a Canadian, I had soaked up three things from my environment: a love of ice hockey; an ability to convert Celsius into Fahrenheit in my head; and the belief that government-run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people. When HillaryCare shook Washington, I remember thinking that the Clintonistas were right.

    My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks....."

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html
     
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    Canadian Health Officials: Our Universal Health Care Is 'Sick,' Private Insurance Sho

    “We know there must be change,” Doig said in a recent interview. “We’re all running flat out, we’re all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands.”

    Canada’s universal health care system is not giving patients optimal care, Doig added. When her colleagues from across the country gather at the CMA conference in Saskatoon Sunday, they will discuss changes that need to be made, she said.

    “We all agree the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize,” she said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html#ixzz1UZmEPvJI
     
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    Admittedly there are situations that make health care look out of order in Canada. In general, there isn't a better system in the world. Several factors have bit into the system. Medical doctors refusing to go to the country to serve and wanting to remain in the big cities. Welfare and homeless and doctor-less people are swamping the ER's with sniffles and other minor ailments...because it is free.

    My daughter is a doctor in Georgia, and was in Tampa, and Wisconsin before that. She can give you nightmares from her experiences there. One example, a man was taken to four different hospitals by ambulance before finding a hospital to accept his insurance..He died there. Sadly, even in the USA it is illegal to refuse a needy patient!!!!!

    No human system is perfect. Canada's problem is that medical care is controlled by the provinces, and each province has its own ideas.

    I have had four strokes, and each time received immediate care. No waiting! Which is important for stroke victims. It cost me nothing!!!!

    We have an aging population and this puts more pressure on the system, and the provinces are not adopting to the needs. We need more nurses; they cut back on nurses. We need more beds; they cut back on beds. In plain words, the right hand does not know or care about the other's needs.

    So, the problem is not socialized medicine. but rather the political system.

    Cheers,

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    What a strange law! But having read the artcle at the link you gave, I see that you didn't mean that your politicians framed a law saying, "No man shall receive treatment for breast cancer," but that men who are not medically insured, and rely on Medicaid to pay for their treatment, are not covered for breast cancer. It still seems odd though.
     
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    I wonder if his age also has something to do with it too. I had no insurance and was denied a free check because of my age, despite the heavy advertising that it was free for women who needed it and that I had a mass. They told me I had to be 40 or 45, forget which (I was 24) and I told them my mother was dead from breast cancer before she was 40 and I was high risk, but they still said "nope, we've found it's not cost-efficient to do it under women under that age because "not many women under that age get breast cancer."

    So I'd imagine that being both a man AND under the age where they consider your life cost-efficient enough to worry about, the guy must have it pretty rough! Poor thing.
     
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    No, its just that men are not allowed period.

    http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011/aug/08/treatment-denied/
     
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    Our local Cancer Coalition would fund that man for tests up to $500 if his income level met the guidelines.

    Just sayin...there are private non-profits that would help.

    (I will be a 5 year survivor by the
    grace of God next January)
     
  12. Salty

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    Just sayin...there are private non-profits that would help.[/QUOTE]
    Thank you for the info

    Praise the Lord :praying: :godisgood:
     
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    In Canada, men and women are treated equally.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  14. David Lamb

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    I was about to say that the same is true here. Then I tried to think of the last time I heard of a man going into a maternity ward for treatment. :laugh:
     
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