Why Obama’s new Islamic State plan signals a long war in Iraq

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  1. kyredneck

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    "WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s announcement Wednesday that he will send 450 more military advisers to Iraq highlights the central dilemma of his faltering strategy there: how to shore up the country’s fragile government without being pulled more deeply into a war he never wanted.

    With few good options, Obama’s plan amounts to a decision to stay the course.

    Administration officials said the troop increase — the second since U.S. troops returned to Iraq last year — isn’t intended to produce quick battlefield victories....."

    "If you take out Saddam’s Regime, I guarantee you, that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region." Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002
    (and the Republicans have sought this man's advice on Iran, 2015)
     
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    ...a long war in Iraq will make the war industrialists very happy.
     
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    But caused.
     
  4. The American Dream

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    Then you should be happy. Why don't you go down to the Army
    Recruiter and enlist.
     
  5. righteousdude2

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    And what exactly do you propose free people do to stop the growth of Islamic radicals around the world???? Maybe if you had to be afraid of losing your liberal head to their hatred, your views would be different.

    Theses guys are for real. Or do you think industrialists are manufacturing a lie in order to pad their wallets? :flower:
     
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    His types do not fight the enemy, they only fight those willing to fight the enemies of freedom. He should probably move to Frisco or Hollywood, where he'd feel at home. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I, personally, do not want another war. I think, we should avoid one. But NOT "at all costs". I think there are costs high enough to warrant war.



    Hopefully, the cost for not going to war doesn't get too high. I'm tired of war.
     
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    The USA has been at war almost my entire life. However, Islam is on the march and intends to conquer the world and force everyone to convert to Islam. Soon Islam will have atomic bombs galore.
     
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    No it hasn't.

    The military has been at war a lot, but the country hasn't been involved for decades.
     
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    By design, not consciously involved; mustn't call attention to the real involvement.
     
  12. The American Dream

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    Maybe we should start following the Constitution and have Congress declare war. What an idea.
     
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    I think you should blame the 2012 electoral college. If those 332 electors had not voted for Obama, he would not be President.
     
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    Sorry, George W. Bush, but this whole mess is still your fault

    "Like clockwork, the Republican noise machine is blaming Barack Obama for the crisis in Iraq. And like clockwork, they’ve got everything wrong again.

    The man to blame for what’s happening in Iraq is not President Obama — it’s President Bush.

    Contrary to Tony Blair’s latest protestations, the U.S./U.K. invasion of Iraq — under deliberately fraudulent pretenses – had a great deal to do with enabling the current emergence of a Sunni terrorist military power in Iraq, but it goes much deeper than that. The recent success of ISIS — the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria — is exactly what Osama bin Laden had hoped that the 9/11 attacks would lead to. And thanks to Bush’s spectacularly foolish responses, bin Laden’s dream has come true.....

    ....bin Laden recalled fighting alongside the Mujahedin as they “bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat.” The same could be done with the U.S., he said, citing estimates that the Sept. 11 attacks, which cost al-Qaida $500,000, had cost the U.S. more than $500 billion in destruction and military expenditures. And Naureckas cited a 2011 Washington Post piece by Ezra Klein, elaborating al-Qaida expert Daveed Gartenstein-Ross’ contention that bin Laden had been “enormously successful”:..."

    Read the article, follow the links (I found the international poll very interesting), there's much to think about.
     
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    Salon? What else would one expect?

    The successful prosecution of the war was indeed Bush's fault.

    Screwing up the peace and letting ISIS get a foothold belongs completely to Obama.

    Even ultra liberal and Obama sycophant Maureen Dowd agrees. Go figure. :laugh:
     
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    One of the classic blunders is getting involved with a land war in Asia.

    As for the OP, I had to do a double take--I first thought it had read: "Obama's Islamic State's plan signals a long war in Iraq"
     

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