Why Obama wants to hide birth certificate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Revmitchell, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. Revmitchell

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    * Perhaps something in that birth certificate, if it indeed exists, would contradict assertions Obama has made about his life's story. These might even involve his true parental heritage. Without a real birth certificate, no one really knows who his parents were. So it is ridiculous even to speculate about whether citizenship could be conferred upon him by his mother, when we don't know for sure who his mother is.

    * Perhaps it reveals a foreign birth, as Hawaii allowed for in 1961 while still issuing the "certification of live birth" we have seen posted on his website.

    * Or perhaps it will show just what Obama has claimed all along – a birth in Hawaii to two officially non-citizen parents, for the purpose of establishing "natural born citizenship" under the Constitution.

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    If one considers the "bo"s meteoric rise and his obvious Marxism it is obvious that there is dirty linen in his closet. Whether it includes his citizenship I do not know. I do believe that any attempt to remove him, even on such constitutional grounds, would result in a race war in this country.

    Perhaps far more worrisome to me is, WHO PROVIDED THE MONEY AND INFLUENCE TO GET THIS MARXIST ELECTED?
     
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    anyone running for president should have to produce a legitimate actualy paper birth certificate wit the state seal, we should never just take their word for it, especially when they are surrounded by contraversy. Hopefully we learn something form this. but it may be too late.
     
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    I find it interesting that Presidents will release their 1040"s (tax return). My goodness, I remember when Regan was "call on the carpet" for not giving a large amount to charity. His answer - I gave a whole lot more, but it is none of your business how much I gave!

    I'm with RevMitchell - I think BO has something to hide.

    Salty

    PS, can anybody find a link to that Reagan answer?
     
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    :laugh: :BangHead::tonofbricks:

    This is kind of like those who, during his terms in office, insisted that Teddy Roosevely was insane.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.sh...categorized/2008/06/13/bobirthcertificate.jpg

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

     
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    There is a short form of the certificate of birth and a long form. In the 60's Hawaii issued these to those who were never born in the state. The short form does not show all the pertinent info. The long form will and is what has not been released yet. The short form Obama released most likely is authentic. No one is arguing it is not. What people want to see is the long form that will show exactly where he was born and the nationality of his parents.
     
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    It appears the long form no longer exists or at least will not be released by the State of Hawaii for anyone.

     
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    There is information that would be on the long form somewhere. That is what needs to be released.
     
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    Well according to Evan Thomas he may have been born in a barn so don't look for a birth record!
     
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    Not according to the lady official in Hawaii. Read the entire quote.

    You are wrong again.
     
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    I see no "obvious Marxism" in Obama's policies.
     
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    I doubt that Reagan understated his charitable giving on his tax return. It doesn't go along with his support of reducing taxes.
     
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    Its easier than you think to get a "bonified" certificate-------even our ole Marxist buddy---Obama

    Several years ago I was on my way overseas and needed a passport----well-------I have this "Certificate of Live Birth" piece of paper that has been a part of me ever since I was born--------Momma always kept it in a fire proof box-------didn't want any "Legal" papers to burn up, you know---in a house fire or somethin'

    Anyway--------that certificate went with me through elementary, Jr. High, High skool and then off to college and to seminary------thats the only piece of proof I ever had was that piece of paper

    Well------when I applied for my passport----I included that piece of paper------just like I've always done

    I got a note back from the passport people down in New Orleans------they said that the document I gave them was not a legal document-----it was not a legal certificate of live birth

    I had to apply for a legal certificate down in the Louisiana Department of Social Services---------I gave them my name---my momma's name(including maidian)----my daddy's name and junk like that----the date I was born and year--the city and state and the hospital that my momma "birthed her baby" in

    So I fill the information out----give it to the little lady who was sittin' at a desk with a computer--------she plugged all the info in--------and in about 5 seconds-------there my name was on her computer screen------dog---I was so proud-------cuttin' through all of that "Red Tape"

    Perhaps Obama don't want to get no certificate--------'cause he don't want to be messin' with all of the Red Tape!!!!-----because at the end of the Red Tape----------there may be a little surprise he don't want nobody knowin'-------don't need nobody in his grill!!!!!!!!:laugh::laugh:
     
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    Just keep lookin'------its so obvious--------when you spot it---you'll say to yourself

    "If that would've been a snake---it'd had bit me!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
  15. Magnetic Poles

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    The fact that Obama's detractors are still singing this tired tune only means one thing...






    They got NOTHIN'!!!
     
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    Are you truly not the least bit curious as to why Obama won't produce the long form copy of his birth certificate and end this speculation once and for all?

    Why do think that he is unwilling to do such an easy thing?

    Why doesn't he unite the country around believing that he truly meets the qualifications for President?
     
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    It's not the Birth Certificate I am wondering about , it is this question...

    Who funded his rise out of poverty and drugs into one of the nations BEST schools...

    Something is missing...
     
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    Well I think it means that they are so mad they're willing to believe propagate anything negative they can say about him.

    I'm no fan of Obama and I think there are grave consequences for some of the decisions he has already made and legislation he is proposing.

    I wish those who oppose his politics could actually articulate sane, logical, coherent arguments instead of wallowing in this stupidity.

    I guess they didn't learn anything from the Clinton years when they made so many foolish and baseless accusations against Bill and Hillary Clinton, that when the real dirt came to the surface, it looked like simple partisanship and justice was derailed.

    Then the anti-Bush crowd did the same thing against Dubya, and the "conservative" crowd rightly complained about how unfair it was.

    And now Obama is in office and the so-called "conservative" crowd is being hypocritical again!

    There's not much credibility left in American civil discourse anymore. I wish that Baptists (who are supposed to be followers of Jesus and live according to His example) would demonstrate some integrity... especially those who are pastors and are called to teach the church how to act by their example.
     
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    I don't think this is a wise course for conservatives after James Von Brunn


    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Shooter_was_a_Birther.html


    James von Brunn is parroting some of the exact same things on this board , that should concern people here and those who visit this site. This is not a winning theme for conservatives especially after Jame von Brunns lashing out in violence and holding the birther view along with other hatred.

    "Birther" a new term and I do not think it is a winner, just ask James von Brunn.

    Conservatives need a leader and they do not have one at the moment.
     
  20. Magnetic Poles

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    Not in the least. He had to prove his qualifications before taking office. I don't care about long vs. short form. What if the courthouse had burned down taking vital records with it? It has happened you know.

    Ridiculous and spurious whining & accusations from the fringe are best ignored. Why engage every nut case who comes up with some alleged issue?

    "The country" isn't questioning his qualifications. Only a few on the nutty fringe are continuing to do so. They would be best served engaging on substantive issues rather than this junk. I myself have several beefs with how the President is doing some things. I would discuss those. But I will also give him a chance. Less than 5 months does not an administration make.
     

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