Why so much disagreement between fundamental Baptists?

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  1. thjplgvp

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    On another thread I saw this question asked and thought it would be good to hear the differeent responses. Please keep it civil and unchallenging to other posters.

    My personal response to the question is this.

    a. Different schools
    b. Different disciplines of theological thought
    c. Uneducated apart from local doctrines taught in various churches and subject to the experience, education and personal whims of the pastor.
    d. Limited vocabulary limits your abilibity to present your thoughts clearly. Folks do not have to have a PHD in language but they need to learn that there are trigger words that create extremely emotional responses.
    e. Stubborness

    I look forward to your reasoned responses:smilewinkgrin: :type:
     
  2. Mexdeaf

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    I posted on the other thread and then saw this one so here is a repeat-

    Well, us IFB's are driven by the need to always be right on everything and some of us take pride in showing just how 'separate' we can be. So we all have to carve out our own little slice of IFBdom and from then on it is 'Katie bar the door!'

    I think I have grown up a little bit and come to the realization that a lot of this 'separation' stuff is just as of the flesh as any other carnal sin you can name. :thumbsup:
     
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    I feel sometimes our disagreements make it so hard to win lost souls to Christ. Most people who have never been to church and aren't familiar with our terms Honestly, all they really need to know is that Jesus Christ died and rose again for their sins. Our purpose here is to win lost souls to Christ and sometimes, I feel, time is wasted on the nit picky stuff. Unsaved people are turned off the IFB because they see the pride and Jesus preaches aganist pride. Thoughts?
     
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    I don't know that most lost people know about all the disagreements.

    I do think that because we strive to have correct Biblical doctrine it is easy to get it into our heads that ALL our own thinking is correct. (This is my husband's theory, and I agree).

    We have all these things we know it is correct to separate over, but then we can let our own preferences cause us to separate over every little thing.

    Although I came across this verse last night........
    2Th 3:6
    ΒΆ Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
    .....................
    2Th 3:14
    And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
    2Th 3:15
    Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.


    I think there are different levels of separation. Not ecclesiastical vs. peresonal, but rather there are things that should cause us to merely step back and have slight contact for a time, until the problem is solved, instead of just completely writing the person off forever. And I think oftentimes we use separation as a complete and total renunciation of that person/church for all times to come.
     
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    My own question is similiar and more than likely has the same answer/s as the above question:

    Why so much disagreement between extremely similiar (different in denominational name only) fundamental evangelical churches? Baptist or otherwise?

    The church I grew up attending and still attend is not Baptist, is not a type of Baptist, and shares no common history with Baptist churches, but many of the books my parents had on their shelves were of Baptist origin--authored by John Rice, Dwight L. Moody, Spurgeon, side by side with books by other non-Baptist men and women of faith. "Through Gates of Splendour" by Elisabeth Elliott and "God's Smuggler" by Brother Andrew. My parents had a library that was nearly floor to ceiling--full of books by excellent Christian authors of common genuine and simple faith in the Lord Jesus.

    The writers of the excellent hymns we sing that are amazing in their combination of flowing poetic ability, ringing truth, and deep reverence--it is interesting to look at the background of those hymnwriters. Methodist, Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, Puritan, Mennonite, Plymouth Brethren...

    I will be honest. I used to think that the church I grew up attending--and others exactly like it-- was the only one separated enough, godly enough, gospel-minded enough, holy enough, the most right. I would look at Christians from other denominations and felt sorry for them--sure they were Christians, but weren't following the New Testament pattern like it should be followed. If they would only just read their Bibles, then they would come to a church like mine! Where did I get that? Well, some DID preach it, but not all had that notion--which has the potential to be very dangerous--cultish.

    Yes, I had that awful thing called pride--one of the sins God can't stand as mentioned in Proverbs along with others "A proud look..." The church I attend is indeed where I myself should be, but I now realize that God is perfectly able to lead and guide all true believers in Him to a church in their area that honors Him, and it won't necessarily have the name of my denomination on the sign.

    My job here is to be faithful because I personally will give an account to God. God is able to use us if we wholly desire it, regardless of where we go to church. He is the Shepherd and will lead his people.

    Sincerely, Ciela
     
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    Because not everyone agrees with me!!:smilewinkgrin: :tongue3: :laugh:
     
  7. thjplgvp

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    Because not everyone agrees with me!!:smilewinkgrin: :tongue3: :laugh:


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    To all who have an ear:

    Pride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There does not seem to be a loving spirit amonst any since the statesman, John R. Rice, passed!

    FWIW!!:tear: (This is the tear Icon)!

    sdg!

    rd
     
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    Come to my church! I can honestly say there is a good loving spirit here.


    Now Rhet....honestly I know of many good Fundamentalist preachers who have a loving spirit.

    Are you talking about preachers in the public eye?
     
  10. thjplgvp

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    What about the BB?

    What diferences here on this BB. Can we have diversity as J of J speaks of or is dissention verbal abuse to be expected, relished and reciprocated? At what point in fundamentalism is a brother or a sister reviled and disassociated with on the BB?

    Your thoughts?
     

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