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Why the US Invaded Iraq

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    I am not sure you are right when you say that Congress receives the same intelligence as the President. The President gets a daily briefing. I doubt seriously that the CIA or NSA makes all the intelligence available to all 535 members of Congress.

    It has been pretty widely reported that Bush was warned that some intelligence he said he would use, or did use was not reliable and came from very dubious sources. But he used it anyway.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/2003/intell-030714-rfel-162426.htm

    Bush blamed the CIA for the mistake.

    http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cach...dubious+intelligence&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=cz

    http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cach...dubious+intelligence&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=cz
     
  2. LeBuick

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    And to add, Sadaam denied the UN inspectors free access to the inspections they needed to do. I'm in no way saying Saddam was over there playing nice, my question was why didn't Bush wait for the UN? Why did he feel we should go this alone? We should have continued diplomatic negotiations until the UN decided it was time to go in Iraq. Because we didn't wait, this is now America's war and not that of the UN.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    It is hard to take you seriously when you make statements like this.
     
  4. Pastor Larry

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    There are intelligence committees in the Congress who get the intel. They may not get it daily, but they can get it.
     
  5. LeBuick

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    Soooooo, you don't feel we needed UN support?
     
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    Ed

    There is something new under the Sun. You and I finally agree on something.:thumbs: :thumbs:
     
  7. LeBuick

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    That's not new, time just needed to align with destiny etc... :laugh: :thumbs:
     
  8. LadyEagle

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    The UN is a toothless tiger and Saddam knew it. The UN resolutions had been ignored by Saddam, 16 of them either ignored or defied. The UN wasn't having their planes shot at in the "no fly zone." It was the UK and US who were patrolling the skies. You need to brush up on history, Friend.
     
  9. Revmitchell

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    What is hard to take seriously is when these idiotic false claims of going it alone are made. As far as the UN goes we now know that they were taking kick back from the oil for food programs which lead them to oppose finalizing the situation in Iraq. There were more than 30 countries involved in finalizing the gulf war. Going it alone is a revision of the facts.
     
  10. OldRegular

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    Well according to some whacko leftist we went to war for oil!
     
  11. LeBuick

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    I will have to do some checking but I don't recall their being 30 countries involved. The list I recall is;

    US
    Brits
    Australia
    Spain (who withdrew after the train station was bombed)
    Poland and Kuwait

    You say there were 30? Do you have a link?

    I also don't recall many democrats voting for the war but that really doesn't matter. Let me do some checking before I respond...
     
  12. LadyEagle

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    Originally, there were 33 countries:

    http://www.iraqwarveterans.org/coalition.htm

    http://www.heritage.org/research/iraq/wm225.cfm
     
  13. LeBuick

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    As for the 30 countries, I find no support of a list that long.

    As for going it alone, it was Bush and his administration leading the cause for invading. He began in his Inaugural address when he called them the axis of evil. There was Powell holding up the vile of anthrax and the claims they had long range missiles that could reach the US. This is why congress voted for the resolution and these were never found.

    As you pointed out with your quotes from the Clinton administration, I am not saying Saddam was an angel but I still believe had we of waited for the UN to invade we wouldn't have so much responsibility in seeing Iraq back to a stable government. Iraq would be occupied by UN peacekeeping troops which would allow us to pull down some of our forces so we can put more in Afghanistan.

    Perhaps going it alone is an exaggeration but waiting on the UN we didn't do.
     
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    I thought it was false intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    We did wait on the UN for 16 resolutions and as was stated, the UN oil for food program was corrupt.

    I provided the links about the countries above your post, LB.

    I do have to say that part of the misinformation about going to war in Iraq has been due in large part to the Bush administration failing to communicate efficiently to the American people and the world. Definite breakdown of communication and a hostile press.
     
  16. LeBuick

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    From your first link...

    One or both must not be accurate.... I think this is also the largest problem, it is hard to find unbiased facts instead of just people throwing up stuff...
     
  17. Thinkingstuff

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    I thought we invaded just because.
     
  18. LeBuick

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    It was Jim, that and delivery systems. It was claimed Iraq had long range missiles capable of delivering their chemical weapons to American soil.
     
  19. LadyEagle

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    How hard is it to figure out that there were originally 33 countries, the number dropped to 24 because some countries pulled out, and then over time, more countries joined the coalition to be 54 countries? I'm not an Einstein but even I can deduce. :tonofbricks:
     
  20. LeBuick

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    We did, because Bush wanted to. :thumbs:
     
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