Why they want to lose

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  1. Ps104_33

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    ".......the left in its political strategy seems to be applying the doctrine of the lesser evil. The left is allying with the bad guys in order to defeat the worse guys. Obviously leftists have no wish to live in the kind of society that Bin Laden seeks to establish. But the left also knows that Bin Laden wants to establish sharia in Baghdad, not Boston. Some elements on the left are willing to risk an Islamic fundamentalist state in Iraq in order to improve its prospects of defeating conservative government here in America. "

    That just about says it all. An excellent article from one of the best conservative writers today.

    http://townhall.com/Columnists/DineshDSouza/2007/03/19/why_they_want_to_lose
     
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    Yea, that about says it all too!
     
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    Isn't that what Reagan did when he supported the evil Saddam against the more evil government in Iran, during the Iraq-Iran war?

    Why is it alright when it is a Republican, and not alright when it is a Democrat?
     
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    Years and years of ceasless conditioning Terry. Fear and loathe liberals, fear and loathe muslims, fear and loathe homosexuals, fear and loathe people with tatoos, fear and loathe people with yellow skin, fear and loathe people with brown skin...fear and loathe, fear and loathe. Jesus taugh love your enemies, govchurch teaches fear and loathing, fear and loathing.

    Which message sinks in deeper do you suppose? One you might hear maybe once or twice a week or one that you hear non stop 24/7?
     
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    And allying with the Soviet Union against Hitler. Past mistakes dont justify present ones.
    BTW, you seem angry all the time, are you angry?
     
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    Given the circumstances at the time you think it was a mistake to ally with the Soviet Union to defeat Hitler? I am not sure I agree. Communism never really turned out to be the great big "world ender" that everyone claimed. Just as I have my doubts as to whether or not Islam will be either, but that's another thread altogether.

    As for past mistakes, let's not forget the damage to Latin America through our government's interferance. The US backed ARENA's, in El Salvador during the 80's, and their death squads slaughtered nearly 75,000 people. Then there is the Reagan backed Nicaraguan "freedom fighters", what a joke. Reagan couldn't tell the people of the US that we sponsoring terrorism so he won support by labeling the contras "freedom fighters". Care to guess just exactly where our tax dollars were going? Let's see there was rape, torture, murder, and mass killing of unarmed civilians. Unfortunately history has a way of repeating itself. "Islamofascism" is the new communism. The question remains as to how we are going to react this time. Will Americans step up and hold their leaders accountable this time, or will we turn a blind eye to state sponsored terrorism?

    Frankly it is not up to the "left" or the "right" in America to decide what kind of government or law is set up in Iraq. They are a sovereign nation.

    As for the article it paints a pretty broad brush as to the left. The left is no more succinct in thought and ideology then the conservatives.
     
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    Film Producer,
    I didnt say that it was a mistake to ally with the Soviets against Hitler. I was only making a point concerning Terry's comment about the U.S. helping Sadaam Hussein against Iran during the Reagan administration. Sometimes we dont know what the future holds in the evil minds of some of the leaders in the world. At the time Hitler was more of a threat than the Soviet Union, and Iran was and still is more of a threat to us today.
     
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    PS, sorry for the misunderstanding. I asked, because I wasn't sure what you meant. I agree that Hitler was the greater evil of the time. I also believe Iran is, and has been, a greater threat than Iraq ever was.
     
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    "But the left also knows that Bin Laden wants to establish sharia in Baghdad, not Boston."

    I disagree. Bin Laden wants to establish sharia in Baghdad AND Boston.
     
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    Ain't it the truth. He's fighting hard to establish it in Canada, and Detroit will be the first city in the USA.
     
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    If we had stayed in Viet Nam another 5 years would we have won that war? If so, what would we have won?
     
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    Dinesh D'Souza is "one of the best conservative writers today?"
    :laugh:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200702050002

    Regards,
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    There is a big difference between supporting the less of two evils and doing something that actually hurts your country for political gain. Using the Soviets to defeat Hitler, or Saddam to defeat Iran were at the time the right choices, but what the democrat left wants to do right now is destroy the United States hoping that they can gain political power in our nation’s defeat. They would rather be kings of a 3rd world nation than citizens in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. I have a hard time understanding that mentality.
     
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    We would have secured freedom for a nation of 85 million people (13th largest in the world, 3 times the size of Iraq). We would have opened a mission field and secured religious liberty for Christians there. We would have established an economy that would today be competing or beating Japan, Korea, and China. Vietnam was worth fighting for and the only mistake was not allowing our military to win.

    Now I don’t think we can view the Vietnam War as a complete failure either. I do believe that staying as long as we did we kept communism from running over the rest of Southeast Asia (remember the dominos?) I do believe that Thailand would be communist today if we had not fought so long and hard in Vietnam.
     
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    I would agree with you tentmaker but heres the travesty: We went into WWII under false pretenses, we went into Vietnam under false pretenses, we went into Iraq under false pretenses, and now it seems we're picking a fight with Iran. Do you think the end justifies the means?
     

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